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Old 10-05-2015, 10:01 PM   #21
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Prc, that's what I'm talking about...I don't understand the whole "I've had the same set of brushes for 15 years" thing. I beat em up, then they go to exterior, then to primer and if by some miracle they make it past that stage they become dusters then trash. I buy them by the cases on sale. Ive got no problem chucking them out. I get my $'s worth...
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Prc, that's what I'm talking about...I don't understand the whole "I've had the same set of brushes for 15 years" thing. I beat em up, then they go to exterior, then to primer and if by some miracle they make it past that stage they become dusters then trash. I buy them by the cases on sale. Ive got no problem chucking them out. I get my $'s worth...
My brushes certainly don't last me even a year. I still wash well and wrap in pulp to keep a clean edge. I just like a nice brush to work with and don't want cheap ones that leave bristles on the wall, or splayed ones. At the risk of getting told, yet, again. I do very little exterior work. When my brushes die, that's it, they're dead to paint and move on to paint stripping before the trash. (Don't ask me why but I prefer to fall 20' onto a tile floor than from a roof onto the grass. I'm terrified of high exterior work. It's OK, I know that I'm nuts!)
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i guess i need to add that i'm not a sash fan. 3.5in square top. I can use it in either direction with either hand and it never hooks. wash it out in the sink or on a wet rock beat it on the bottom of my shoe to get the remaining water out, smooth out the bristles a bit and hang it in the van. wire brush as needed but i kinda like my bristles a bit beat (not too stiff, not too soft) and the core a bit stiff. makes nice tight lines, on most stuff, trim work i'll use a nice brush, but walls or exterior, psh...just keep paintin.
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My brushes certainly don't last me even a year. I still wash well and wrap in pulp to keep a clean edge. I just like a nice brush to work with and don't want cheap ones that leave bristles on the wall, or splayed ones. At the risk of getting told, yet, again. I do very little exterior work. When my brushes die, that's it, they're dead to paint and move on to paint stripping before the trash. (Don't ask me why but I prefer to fall 20' onto a tile floor than from a roof onto the grass. I'm terrified of high exterior work. It's OK, I know that I'm nuts!)
Ok I'll just say it for you...you're afraid of bees lol.
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and jt, it's not nuts to know and respect your limits. ime, those who push em too far are the ones who get hurt. in this line of work, hurt is usually a life altering or ending experience. it's ok to stay in your comfort zone. tile is more forgiving than being impaled by a big rhododendron.lol (my x hubby did that once, right through his leg. it was a big bummer.)
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I"M TERRIFIED OF SPIDERS! LOL and freaking bats that fly out of vents at 32 feet up in a less than desirable ladder positioning. that sucked.
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Prc, that's what I'm talking about...I don't understand the whole "I've had the same set of brushes for 15 years" thing. I beat em up, then they go to exterior, then to primer and if by some miracle they make it past that stage they become dusters then trash. I buy them by the cases on sale. Ive got no problem chucking them out. I get my $'s worth...
I use to feel that way about my brushes. It's the tools of the trade, extensions of our arm, gotta care for them. I still have some old black and white china oil and varnish brushes. They seem to get better with age. Maybe it's a natural bristle vs. plastic. The new brushes don't hold the same place for me. Once they are done then it's as you say, they progress to a duster. We spend a few hundred a year to keep 5 guys in brushes, it cost much less than excessive cleaning or production loses. Oil brushes do hang in thinner day to day, spin and kick the next morning.
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I "pray" in front of my laundry tub for a long time after a long day with more than a few brushes. I'm always blown away when guys on here say they can perfectly clean a brush in 45 seconds. I honestly don't see how that's possible in any way.

I've always tried to figure out a different method as well as it takes an incredible amount of water to do this well, which just seems wasteful and not exactly enviro friendly. Never found a solution.

Thus, I continue "praying". It's just part of the day I guess.
I don't think it has to be that much of your day, every day. Do you clean under running water or use a bucket and submerge? 45 seconds is fast and possible with vinyl latex paints but paints like Aura or 046 primer really stick. Still 2 minutes, on average, to clean a brush is doable.
If you don't already, I would suggest you hit them with a wire brush before leaving the job an transport them in a bucket of water.

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i guess i need to add that i'm not a sash fan. 3.5in square top. I can use it in either direction with either hand and it never hooks.
I think it may have something to do with the brush we have the most experience in. I never use anything but a sash brush. I like the angle cut and as a trainee, that's what was put in my hands. From that day to this, when I reach for a brush, thats the one I go for. I have never tried the square tops. It's always interesting to read how the other painters do things. Shows the differences in style.

Al long as the wok comes out well, who cares how that happened?
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I think it may have something to do with the brush we have the most experience in. I never use anything but a sash brush. I like the angle cut and as a trainee, that's what was put in my hands. From that day to this, when I reach for a brush, thats the one I go for. I have never tried the square tops. It's always interesting to read how the other painters do things. Shows the differences in style.

Al long as the wok comes out well, who cares how that happened?
The $ spends the same...
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Thoroughly pre wet bristles before dipping brush in paint.
Preemptively clean throughout day so paint doesn't migrate up.
Bingo. I know guys who don't clean brushes all day long, and I don't envy their cleaning sessions. On the other hand, my constant cleaning probably seems really anal to them, even if it is relatively quick. Also, I can see why you wouldn't want to rinse out a brush in a customer's laundry sink or even their backyard hose - some people consider that to be inappropriate.
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Ive seen that good quality 100% acrylic paints certainly build up faster and are harder to clean off brushes. Switch out brushes midday, let them soak in a fiver.
A $20 brush that goes a month cost you a $1/day, make it a duster and get a new one.
Phh, I clean them when I have to switch color during a day, otherwise keep them in a plastic for weeks till my laziness eases off a bit)) Otherwise, yeah, new brash each job is a good thing to have, though me is using brash not so often, once a week maybe, spray gun is the most used and most productive toy over all the tools put together.

Anyway, if I want any of my brushes "back", soak it in xylene for a day, brand new and soft as it were before new.

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Latex/acrylic brushes I soak with Windex for few minutes, wirebrush'em, wash them with luke warm water. Works like a charm.
( ammonia in windex dissolves ugly dried pain by the ferrule)
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warm water dish-soap wire brush hand spin comb out done .Idont get personally attached to my brushes and very few make it past a month.then its a cover stain brush
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warm water dish-soap wire brush hand spin comb out done .I dont get personally attached to my brushes and very few make it past a month.then its a cover stain brush
REALLY.

Even a tight wad thrifty Yankee like myself can't get emotionally attached to a synthetic brush. Financially attached - YES, but they are cheap now.

Now a good Chinese Bristle, them's is worth pre-nupt agreements.



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REALLY.

Even a tight wad thrifty Yankee like myself can't get emotionally attached to a synthetic brush. Financially attached - YES, but they are cheap now.

Now a good Chinese Bristle, them's is worth pre-nupt agreements.


I've been taking good care of some of our ox (ear) hair brushes for a number of years.
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I've been taking good care of some of our ox (ear) hair brushes for a number of years.
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[QUOTE=jeffnc;980433]Bingo. I know guys who don't clean brushes all day long, and I don't envy their cleaning sessions. On the other hand, my constant cleaning probably seems really anal to them, even if it is relatively quick. Also, I can see why you wouldn't want to rinse out a brush in a customer's laundry sink or even their backyard hose - some people consider that to be inappropriate.[/QUOTE]

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I tried the dishsoap thing and didnt see a difference over time. Water, wirebrush, soak during wrapping everything else up, then hand spin them.
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