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Pete Martin the Painter 08-29-2013 12:05 PM

Ceiling Prep - What do you do
 
Hi, just wondering what others do for prep of flat ceilings with flat paint on them. Do you always, or ever, sand, and do you clean? And, when I ask this I am thinking more of ceilings that are in living rooms or bedrooms. I am thinking that perhaps I am wasting time sanding and washing ceilings if is clear that they do not need it--in areas where the chances of dirt accumulating on ceiling is almost non-existent.

Thanks.:)

Jmayspaint 08-29-2013 12:14 PM

Knock the cob webs down and paint em.

I might wash a kitchen ceiling if it was greasy or something. If there stained up, I prime rather than clean. I would normally only sand if there was trash in the previous paint or something.

cdaniels 08-29-2013 12:18 PM

What JM said.I sweep them down with a broom and paint.

6126 08-29-2013 12:19 PM

Usually, no. Mainly kitchen ceilings in older homes. Although I have had some I had to clean with TSP if someone had smoked a lot of cigarettes inside. Luckily, not many smoke inside their homes anymore these days.

Delta Painting 08-29-2013 12:24 PM

If you sand first on any surface the finish product will look\feel better.
I do not wash unless its all funked up. I prime if any water stains are present..

Pete Martin the Painter 08-29-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta Painting (Post 431416)
If you sand first on any surface the finish product will look\feel better.
I do not wash unless its all funked up. .

Do you wash after you sand, if not, what about any dust that might result from the sanding? I am not questioning your methods, I am just wondering if there is a need to wash after sanding a ceiling.

Delta Painting 08-29-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete the Painter (Post 431421)
Do you wash after you sand, if not, what about any dust that might result from the sanding? I am not questioning your methods, I am just wondering if there is a need to wash after sanding a ceiling.

No worries... I do not wash after sanding..

Those Painter Guy's 08-29-2013 12:55 PM

@pete the painter,

Sanding all the time.... like using primer all the time :rolleyes: in places that don't need it :whistling2: is a massive waste of time.

Flat on flat.... If it's not failing... Just paint that beotch and be done with it....

Perhaps all the down time you've been experiencing is influencing you.

Don't over think...

JUST DO!

:)

mudbone 08-29-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cdaniels (Post 431412)
What JM said.I sweep them down with a broom and paint.

I sweep and paint both with broom.

Those Painter Guy's 08-29-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mudbone (Post 431425)
I sweep and paint both with broom.

master... :notworthy:

;)

Pete Martin the Painter 08-29-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Those Painter Guy's (Post 431424)
@pete the painter,

Perhaps all the down time you've been experiencing is influencing you.

Don't over think...

JUST DO!

:)

Thanks, I think you are a little right. But, I am almost positive that the down time is going to end very soon.

BreatheEasyHP 08-29-2013 01:37 PM

What's ya'lls favorite tool for sanding a ceiling?

If it's not connected to dust collection, what's a decent method for collecting the dust produced?

Hines Painting 08-29-2013 01:42 PM

2 coats covers cob webs just fine.

TJ Paint 08-29-2013 02:13 PM

The only ceiling I'm sanding is when there's mud on it, either from patching or new drywall finishing.

Otherwise, I will prime instead in every other situation.

READY TO ROLL 08-29-2013 02:16 PM

I fire up the airless and shoot em', cobwebs and all. :whistling2:

6126 08-29-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudbone (Post 431425)
I sweep and paint both with broom.

I just pressure wash them :thumbup: Wash the ceilings and furniture both at the same time :whistling2:

andy1015 08-29-2013 02:39 PM

maybe light pole sand...and I use a nappy roller....I like the colossus...they have up to 1.5 inch nap...goes fast and leaves a nice stipple...also, I like to use a nappy whizz roller around the edges....when you use a brush, it leaves a different texture...

hotwing7 08-29-2013 04:40 PM

Pete- use a broom to get rid of cobwebs, pole sand lightly to get rid of any 'clinkers' as I call them, and then paint. You are only sanding to smooth what should be minor imperfections so there shouldn't be any dust as such to even necessitate a damp rag. If you have patched then sand and use your broom to clear what minimal dust there should be. I've hardly ever had to sand ceilings cos if you think about it - it would have been one soab'ing messy contractor / painter / ho to get dirt all the way up there. Unless yiu are painting college dorms then all bets are off.

SemiproJohn 08-29-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete the Painter (Post 431410)
Hi, just wondering what others do for prep of flat ceilings with flat paint on them. Do you always, or ever, sand, and do you clean? And, when I ask this I am thinking more of ceilings that are in living rooms or bedrooms. I am thinking that perhaps I am wasting time sanding and washing ceilings if is clear that they do not need it--in areas where the chances of dirt accumulating on ceiling is almost non-existent.

Thanks.:)

Usually a broom is all that is needed. Pay special attention to the areas where the ceiling meets the walls and where there are air conditioning vents...I find those areas the nastiest in general. Like the others have said, you probably don't need to sand at all...if you see some goobers up there, just pole sand them quickly. The only time I worry about dust is if I have had to sand over new mud. Then, I use a sponge on one of those poles that has a device to wring the water from the sponge...I'm lazy that way. Glad to hear your slow time might be coming to a halt soon.

Jmayspaint 08-29-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy1015
maybe light pole sand...and I use a nappy roller....I like the colossus...they have up to 1.5 inch nap...goes fast and leaves a nice stipple...also, I like to use a nappy whizz roller around the edges....when you use a brush, it leaves a different texture...

So, what your saying is you don't cut in ceilings for no reason?

Ole isn't gonna like this at all:jester:

StevenH 08-29-2013 08:02 PM

Remove spider webs, dust,
Lighty sand with radius 360 w/ 220grit
Remove dust with woodster dust eater
Apply behr primer
Apply behr ceiling paint

TJ Paint 08-29-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenH (Post 431503)
Apply behr primer
Apply behr ceiling paint

behr has primer?

David's Painting 08-29-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ Paint (Post 431506)

behr has primer?

Behrly

ProWallGuy 08-29-2013 09:05 PM

Once over dust, twice over rust.

simplycovered 08-29-2013 09:29 PM

is this a test? I look around for fly poop first and wash it off. I try to get away with one coat if I can, it all depends on the lights and the windows. Or in the one I saw today it was hose down with tsp, oil prime,, then plaster skim coat, prime again then paint ceiling flat .

Ole34 08-29-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenH (Post 431503)
Remove spider webs, dust,
Lighty sand with radius 360 w/ 220grit
Remove dust with woodster dust eater
Apply behr primer
Apply behr ceiling paint





im gonna need you to stop priming ceilings from now on ok ?.....

StevenH 08-29-2013 11:31 PM

I only do it on kitchen ceiling and bathrooms

StevenH 08-29-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ Paint (Post 431506)
behr has primer?

Yes, behr polyester brush works best for this

Jmayspaint 08-29-2013 11:42 PM

Has anyone noticed how some fly poop will wipe off easily, and not really bleed through paint. But some of is really hard to get off. Especially from vinyl siding, and will bleed like crazy.


Must have to do with what the fly ate that day....

RH 08-30-2013 12:43 AM

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We used to sand all the ceilings first but then our customers were always pissed that we'd removed all the texture - so now we don't. :rolleyes:

chrisn 08-30-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenH (Post 431550)
Yes, behr polyester brush works best for this


only in California:rolleyes:

Toolnut 08-31-2013 07:24 AM

BEHR has paint?


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