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Old 06-13-2009, 02:49 PM   #1
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hey everyone,

got a complete exterior on the go. prep work is amost done. did a test area for the client and am having difficulty finding the correct shade of white to match the existing colour. close, but not exact.

the client wants to minimize the amount of paint we're using as it was painted two years ago. wanting to only paint the repaired areas it seems. i quoted for 1 coat complete, knowing some areas will get two coats , and other areas won't need any paint at all. (they're selling in a year, get the picture?)

any suggestions for getting the perfect colour match?

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Old 06-13-2009, 03:00 PM   #2
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It's not going to happen. You could use the exact same paint and color as before out of the same tin but it wouldn't match. There will be varying shades of discoloration in different areas of the original paint. Closest match will have to do.
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If the orig is a little darker or yellower than your new paint, you could tweek it with some tints. Do a little and test before committing the bucket. And keep notes how many drops, in case you need to remake.
But basically, What Tooled said.
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Also why wouldn't have that figured out prior to starting? When custom matches are in the scope of the work they should be match and sample and signed off prior to any of the work starting.
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sorry moving it to the another thread

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It's not going to happen. You could use the exact same paint and color as before out of the same tin but it wouldn't match. There will be varying shades of discoloration in different areas of the original paint. Closest match will have to do.
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You could use the exact same paint and color as before out of the same tin but it wouldn't match. There will be varying shades of discoloration in different areas of the original paint. Closest match will have to do.
Exactly
There is no "perfect" solution

Holding a bunch of white chips up to the existing, bringing a sample into your favorite Paint Store for a match, and portable tools like Ben Moore's pocket spectro would all be either dead-on or close enough
It's like a pickem in the football pool
None is perfect
And perfect may not be possible due to exposure of the paint

...unless you get the orig. and let it weather for two years
...but even that may not weather the same way!
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Agree with the others, not going to match.
Or this could be a use for the IPhone!
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take a chip off the the area to a paint store and they can match it.



the white and that blue were color matches from chips I took off the repaired areas. They matched em up pretty damn well if I do say so myself. These were taken RIGHT AFTER painting it, so they were a little dark in the pic.
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You missed a spot.








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First, as stated, the existing paint has faded and turned color unevenly, you will be very hard pressed to get the new paint to match at all points.

Second, and prolly the most important. As you know the existing paint has changed color from when it was freshly applied, we all know paint does this. So, you go and apply a color matching the old yellowed, grayed, and faded two year old paint. What's going to happen to the new paint you apply in that one year time frame? It's going to fade, yellow, and gray. OOOOOOPS, it don't match no more.

Prolly the best bet is to apply the same original paint. In one year it will be a closer match than what a master chromologist could mix up.

IMO, the HO has two choices, paint the whole side or live with a mis-match.



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wow, thanks guys!

it was the same paint out of the same pot that didn't match. now i know why and i can confidently talk to the HO on monday, and proceed.

cheers, and thanks again,

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You missed a spot.


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Paint the whole fence. The gas and time you waste back and forth to the paint store trying to match could be spent painting the entire fence. Less headaches.........and if you waste all that time trying to match you are going to rape the customer a bunch of money anyway for your time. Paint the WHOLE FENCE and do you customer a service. They were going to pay you for the paint match and your drive time anyway.
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In the OP it was stated that this was a complete exterior. I do not see why a non-exact match would be an issue if this is true. Then it went on to say that some areas would get two coats, some would get one, some would get none. Why is this? Are these like north facing sides of dormers? In that case, they are naturally divided and a non exact match would not be detectable. If you are just trying to touch up, it will show. Thats life. Just do 1 coat on everything like latex says, two as needed (I would do as a spot coat prior to full coat). SW has the best color matchers around here by far.
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Match by color fan on the shaded side of the house...Or better yet,bring a piece of the siding or something in to the paint store to match...I never quote one coat on exteriors unless I'm spraying it...Especially off whites...That is a guaranteed 2 coater..
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