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Old 02-26-2010, 10:15 PM   #21
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Personally I dont want to strain my paint on every job, I shouldnt have too. Why am I going to buy paint that is full of trash. You hand me a strainer with my 5 and I'll hand the 5 and the stainer right back to you. Tint float can be a problem too, I know to stir every now and then but if its a problem every 2 times you dip your brush then something is not right.
Spray enough and you will eventually get a "bad batch". It's easier to strain every time, than to stop work and clean out the machine, gun, line and filters.

What does it take to duct tape a strainer to the top of a 5, leaving a large enough gap to fit your feed tube into? Two minutes?

Now how long does it take to clean the machine, line and filters?

Maybe you can get by the rest of the day by turning the tip and blowing out the clogs. How much time do you spend doing that with a bad batch? Bet its more than two minutes.

I don't want to fix problems once we get going. I want to prevent them from the onset. It's not like its hard.
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Old 02-27-2010, 01:28 AM   #22
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Spray enough and you will eventually get a "bad batch". It's easier to strain every time, than to stop work and clean out the machine, gun, line and filters.

What does it take to duct tape a strainer to the top of a 5, leaving a large enough gap to fit your feed tube into? Two minutes?

Now how long does it take to clean the machine, line and filters?

Maybe you can get by the rest of the day by turning the tip and blowing out the clogs. How much time do you spend doing that with a bad batch? Bet its more than two minutes.

I don't want to fix problems once we get going. I want to prevent them from the onset. It's not like its hard.
Dont spray much, completely see your point and would have it setup to strain as I sprayed as well if I sprayed. With cut and roll you can see the trash usually well before its a issue. Even if I did strain everytime I would stay away from the paints that I knew were going to need it.
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Old 02-27-2010, 01:32 PM   #23
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Really? We carried Martin Senour for years.

Platinum = Super Paint
Great Life = A100
Pro Line Supreme = 200
Pro Line Premium = 400
Pro Line = 700

Plus the primers which I forget. Funny, not the same products? But Tinted with the same Blend-A-Color colorants and formulas......and the data sheets....looked pretty similar from what I remember

I mean think about it. When a Paint manufacturer buys another company, MOST ( not all ) of the time they want the name....not the product. When Coronado bought Maxum....guess what NEW FORMULATION AND TINTS, meaning, coronado paint in a maxum label. Is it better for a manufacturer to keep several factories running making different products? No way, run a batch of product and as its coming down the line wrap x# cans with an A100 label.....then x# with Great Life labels.......and so on. No manufacturer will ever admit to this, but you be the judge.

Or does it make more sense for the manufacturer to keep several factories running...making different batches of paint for each line under the umbrella? Which way is more profitable for them?
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If this is the case why would Pratt & Lambert be on a different colorant system than Sherwin-Williams stores?


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Really? We carried Martin Senour for years.

Platinum = Super Paint
Great Life = A100
Pro Line Supreme = 200
Pro Line Premium = 400
Pro Line = 700

Plus the primers which I forget. Funny, not the same products? But Tinted with the same Blend-A-Color colorants and formulas......and the data sheets....looked pretty similar from what I remember

I mean think about it. When a Paint manufacturer buys another company, MOST ( not all ) of the time they want the name....not the product. When Coronado bought Maxum....guess what NEW FORMULATION AND TINTS, meaning, coronado paint in a maxum label. Is it better for a manufacturer to keep several factories running making different products? No way, run a batch of product and as its coming down the line wrap x# cans with an A100 label.....then x# with Great Life labels.......and so on. No manufacturer will ever admit to this, but you be the judge.

Or does it make more sense for the manufacturer to keep several factories running...making different batches of paint for each line under the umbrella? Which way is more profitable for them?
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Old 02-27-2010, 02:31 PM   #25
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If this is the case why would Pratt & Lambert be on a different colorant system than Sherwin-Williams stores?
Different order numbers....same colorants
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Most of the Benny Moore dealers I sell to carry PPG, California or Devoe.

Hard to carry anything less than a name brand if you are trying get in with what might be specified on a job.

With that being said, here's a couple of independent guys who make some really neat stuff:

Kelly Moore Paint
Farrell Calhoun Paint
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Hello,

I'm a sales manager with Pratt&Lambert Paints. We would love to sit down and show you our program. I think we were mentioned several times on a paint line to look at by other members. Please give us the opportunity to earn your business. Thank you.


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We are a long time Ben Moore retailer, looking to carrying a compeitive line, any suggestions??
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The color of the colorants are different. The Blend-A-Color system that S-W uses has a Magenta, Yellow Oxide, and a Raw Umber. None of these are used in the P&L colorant system.

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Honestly, I would prefer to have an alternative or specialty line rather than something mainstream. Before BM came out with the Natura I was getting ready to make the 40 mile drive to try out the Mythic. There are a number of the 'Green' lines that I would love to have available - AFM, American pride, BioShield, etc.

PPG, ICI, Duron, SW, BM - It's all a little like the ol' Ford & Chevy debates and preferences. I bounce between SW and BM with BM as my primary. I believe these two are the better and each have specific products that I prefer. I am sure PPG, ICI, Muralo, etc offer excellent options/alternatives but I really have no reason to add another vendor unless it is for a specialty product.
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I'm a sales manager with Pratt&Lambert Paints. We would love to sit down and show you our program. I think we were mentioned several times on a paint line to look at by other members. Please give us the opportunity to earn your business. Thank you.
I am seeing a rep next week from P&L
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