Cover stain recoat time? - Page 2 - Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum > Painting Forum > General Painting Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-16-2012, 08:00 PM   #21
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern U.S.
Posts: 339
Rewards Points: 252
Thanks: 87
Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts
View sincere painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ Paint
It's very simple, use gardz. It's what all the cool painters like me use.

Sent from my MB508 using Paint Talk
Guardz now, instead of cover stain? Then finish on it right away with paint? Won't reactivate??
__________________
Thank you for reading my post.
sincere painter is offline   Reply With Quote

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. PaintTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-16-2012, 08:33 PM   #22
Senior Member
 
Ultimate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 1,793
Rewards Points: 1,326
Thanks: 2,324
Thanked 963 Times in 597 Posts
View Ultimate's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Nvm....
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Ultimate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2012, 10:10 PM   #23
Almost Gone
 
TJ Paint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Wind River Range
Posts: 10,730
Rewards Points: 516
Thanks: 4,949
Thanked 6,377 Times in 3,759 Posts
View TJ Paint's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sincere painter

Guardz now, instead of cover stain? Then finish on it right away with paint? Won't reactivate??
Just use Gardz.

Sent from my MB508 using Paint Talk
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
TJ Paint is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-16-2012, 11:00 PM   #24
Senior Member
 
kdpaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,653
Rewards Points: 1,058
Thanks: 913
Thanked 1,004 Times in 641 Posts
View kdpaint's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Gardz, topcoat. Sanity. In that order. Life is too short to be rolling oil.
kdpaint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 09:18 PM   #25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern U.S.
Posts: 339
Rewards Points: 252
Thanks: 87
Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts
View sincere painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ Paint
Nobody mentioned gardz which is what i use after stripping. Less odor and cleanup work. Dries as fast as cs.

Sent from my MB508 using Paint Talk
Necro time. What exactly does necro mean anyway??

Looking back to this job where I used Guardz after stripping. I was just going indoors this fall and cover stain was too much odor. Mistake. Guardz didn't "build" enough and ended up starting over with cover stain and the difference is too incredible for my emotions to put into words at the moment. I'm still trying to decompress from the experience and eager to give Guardz another chance but need the higher build. Thinking of gripper or latex cover stain but can't find dry mil thickness specs anywhere on the web??

Ready set go lol...
__________________
Thank you for reading my post.
sincere painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:29 PM   #26
Dry as Rye
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 497
Rewards Points: 340
Thanks: 149
Thanked 242 Times in 151 Posts
View Csheils's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Why not strip the paste? Warm water works. Warm water with vinegar works. Warm water and a cup to gallon ratio of fabric softener works, and smells better than vinegar. Sand, prime, paint.
Csheils is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:30 PM   #27
Dry as Rye
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 497
Rewards Points: 340
Thanks: 149
Thanked 242 Times in 151 Posts
View Csheils's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Necro - greek prefix meaning death. Or just googler it.
Csheils is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:36 PM   #28
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Mn
Posts: 2,096
Rewards Points: 1,000
Thanks: 268
Thanked 1,026 Times in 624 Posts
View BrushJockey's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Gardz- or any primer is not to replace actually knowing you should strip as much paste as you can off. Its to prevent any residue from reactivating...

If the walls are rough , gardz- skim and reprime.
__________________
Formerly known as Rob Y the paint guy..
You know, like Prince did..
BrushJockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:48 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern U.S.
Posts: 339
Rewards Points: 252
Thanks: 87
Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts
View sincere painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

But the cover stain will seal paste AND build for less patching...

I could see how Guardz is for walls that don't need extensive patching. My application had multiple drywall damages... Bubbling drywall paper, high and low spots from separating paper, torn paper. Guardz seals nicely, patches well, but after sanding patches and re-guardzing, and painting two coats, many imperfections still showed. If I had used cs, and I did after the fact, these imperfections go away as if it got a heavy skim.
__________________
Thank you for reading my post.
sincere painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 12:21 AM   #30
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,388
Rewards Points: 2,000
Thanks: 218
Thanked 1,028 Times in 672 Posts
View plainpainter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Guardz is way over-sold on this site. It's a specialty primer, i.e. for special situations only. Don't re-invent the wheel. I've worked for guys in the past that never bothered to remove the glue from the walls - just an orbital sander to level it off and Cover-stain as the primer - and it always worked perfectly. What I have done in the past was just clean the walls with a warm/hot solution of fabric softener diluted in water. Then after all the mud repairs which covered 40-60% of the surface, I just used a typical latex wallprimer. Always worked great.
__________________
Daniel Tambasco
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Where the professionals go to make sure Harry homeowner isn't getting too many quotes!
plainpainter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 12:37 AM   #31
Almost Gone
 
TJ Paint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Wind River Range
Posts: 10,730
Rewards Points: 516
Thanks: 4,949
Thanked 6,377 Times in 3,759 Posts
View TJ Paint's Photo Album My Photos
Default

coverstain will work. I love coverstain, but if I can use something else (wb) that will do the trick, to me that's easier.

I use gardz probably more for sealing over "trouble" walls that has a bunch of repairs in high lighted areas where most primers don't seal quite as good.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
TJ Paint is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
None

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Oil based PrimeBlok or Cover Stain sroskens Surface Preparation and Application 5 05-03-2012 12:27 PM
Problems with cover stain mpminter General Painting Discussion 54 03-30-2012 09:30 PM
Zinsser Cover Stain Bighead Tools, Supplies and Equipment 17 08-25-2009 04:42 AM
Water-Based Cover Stain Rich Surface Preparation and Application 15 03-05-2009 01:36 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | ElectricianTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com