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Did SW Increase Their Price in 2020???

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#1 ·
Just got off the phone w a buddy of mine and he told me that they upped their prices on average of 5 - 6% effective 2020. Anyone else seeing that?
 
#10 · (Edited)
Things like the sw 40% sale is one of many reasons I generally didn't itemized bids for residential work....my price was for a complete job, one price. Main reason was I tended to make more money with an aggregate price.

The local BM dealer gives anybody who asks contractor price. smh

*I certainly wouldn't expect them to drop prices 5-6%.
 
#20 ·
Just telling the truth. Not the "spin" that people trying to sell you paint give you.

and since i'm no longer in the paint industry....who knows?
 
#23 ·
I just met with my new SW rep today and I was not sold due to the fact that I've researched PPG, BM, SW, and Diamond Vogel. SW is losing me on their products every time they try to justify their prices.

P.S. PACman, what store did you own/work at when you were in the painting industry?
Also, what is your opinion on Diamond Vogel in the Midwest?
 
#24 ·
YES!! I was actually pissed last week after a supply run. A few hrs later I glanced @ my cc notification for the total charge n was shocked. Looked it up only to find my pricing has gone up....Called my rep but didn’t get very far.

Vista paint & BM will be gettin my business for awhile as I stew in my frustration....
 
#25 ·
So had a meet w my rep last week. Asked him about price increases mentioned here. He said not by much 4-6% or so. That’s like a $1 on a $25 gal of paint. Look I know price increases stink but really, a $1? Not much to complain about. Easy to pass on to customer when bidding. BM HD Lowe’s and any other paint selling store will probably have the same increase at some point this year.

I did make sure to grind him nicely on my prices though for this year. Especially pointing out how irritating it is to pay more on some things(sundries) than normal people when there are sales. He understood. He said he would dial them in. That’s that! Ive got a great rep!


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#30 ·
PPG and BM will both have price increases this year, ranging from 2-7% depending on product. Most independents will raise also, mostly because it is in line with the market. Rising cost of raw materials, as always, is the publicly promoted reason. If you only have SW in your market, good luck with negotiating pricing if you're not a 6 figure plus account. If your market has options, keep good relationships with all of them and pricing will reflect that at all stores.

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#34 ·
I have only used Permacryl and have loved it thus far. It might need a little Floetrol in it to help the leveling but it is quite durable in eggshell.

Weird thing is they just redid all their signage and it looks sweet then a year or so later(two weeks ago) I hear rumors that some of the stores are closing down here in NE.
 
#36 ·
I think it's the frequency of increases that chaps me. 4 - 5% isn't break-the-bank bad, but when they have 3 in less than 2 years, that's compounding. PPG & SW are one in the same. Once one announces an increase, the other doesn't want to leave money on the table, so they follow suit a few months later (most agreements call out 60 days notice for the paint manufacture to implement a price increase). BM won't have one until 2021. But that too is a bit misleading. BM, the manufacturer, will not have an increase until 2021. The dealers can charge whatever & whenever they want. That's why it's more important to have a solid relationship with the dealers. And when they are a few dollars higher, remember this thread when we all said it wasn't a big deal. I'd much rather my dollars go to the mom & pop stores. They're a dying breed.
 
#38 ·
I remember back in the 90s there was a lot of choices in paint brands. In northern California you could easily get to Ben Moore, SW, Fuller Obrian, Dunn Edwards, Kelly Moore, Ameritone paints, Pitsburgh Paints, Sinclair, Devoe and some others I can't remember. Then ICI Paints came through for a few years and bought a lot of them and then disapeard and now we are left with Sherwin Williams and Kelly Moore and Ben Moore is a lot harder to find now.
 
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