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Old 07-12-2019, 06:40 AM   #1
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Hi. Bid a job yesterday. I am always a two coater even with the slightest color change. HO wants the exact same color. He has flat walls and wants eggshell or something more cleanable.

Since it is the same color should i bid as one or two coats?

Also any product you recommend other than a basic eggshell for a basement? Cashmere low lustre?
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Old 07-12-2019, 08:14 AM   #2
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We two coat 90% of the time. We do occasionally just tight roll the second coat instead of cutting it in twice. That is of course if the conditions allow!

Eggshell is the best bet for walls, particularly if they want to lightly wipe them.
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Unless you discuss it with HO I would plan on 2 coats. Just in case. If you get away with 1 (which you probably can in a basement) then it's a bonus.
2nd coat is only 1/4 of the work anyhow..

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Hi. Bid a job yesterday. I am always a two coater even with the slightest color change. HO wants the exact same color. He has flat walls and wants eggshell or something more cleanable.

Since it is the same color should i bid as one or two coats?

Also any product you recommend other than a basic eggshell for a basement? Cashmere low lustre?
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I almost always two coat unless, except sometimes if Im spraying, or if the plan is to do a refresher coat of the same color.

A few weeks ago I had to use duration for an office room, and it covered good enough, so I left it as a single coat.


Most of the stuff I do is textured, so even if the color covers good, theres usually some skippers in the texture crevasses, so I just always bid for a two coater.
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Changing sheens, I always two coat, but if you use a super high quality paint, that may not be necessary, if you can put the paint on heavy.

If the clients only concern is washability, there are washable flat/matte paints out there. Duration is one of them. PPG Pure Performance flat is washable and cheapish. That would definitely be a one coater.

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I two coat 99% of the time even if I don't need to because it isn't worth the hassle of having to come back and redo it.Cut once roll twice on same color ,same finish.
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As Woodco stated, sheen change is just as important to take into account as color change. I always two coat.
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I have had sheen issues with Aura Matte over O'Leary Ceramic flat in the same color. Lots of hat banding, inconsistent sheen until the second coat. Too risky to promise a one coat even when changing product in the same sheen.
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It's such a small percentage of the actual work time it's usually quite worth putting on a second coat. It's much easier than trying to get a perfect coat with one coat. Coming back because you missed a spot or because the sheen isn't holding out is a big enough headache and time consumer that a little proactive second coat will in the long term be much more cost efficient.
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I've only done it once, Ultra Spec flat over Ultra Spec or Superhide flat on a rental. Guy at the paint store recommended going the color down darker (customer didn't care, just wanted to pay me for one coat...) I did and in some rooms I had issues and needed to second coat. I finally figured out the strategy was to roll and backroll everything, and backrolled I had seemingly 100% coverage that way.
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Same color and same sheen, one should do. But I mark where any holes were spackled and hit those spots with paint first, otherwise you will see them if only one coat is applied.

Any color or sheen change, two coats.
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With the genius of paint n' primer in one...EVERYBODY is putting on two coats these days- in half the time, with half the effort!!!
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"for $79.99 a room you expect TWO coats! No, that will be $399.99"
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Existing flat will suck in the first coat. Two coats required!


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apartments are usually done with one coat. Are you painting apartments?
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Same color and same sheen, one should do. But I mark where any holes were spackled and hit those spots with paint first, otherwise you will see them if only one coat is applied.

Any color or sheen change, two coats.
I use caulk for small holes. No flashing issues.
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apartments are usually done with one coat. Are you painting apartments?
Why do they call them apartments, when they're all stuck together?
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Why do they call stuff on ships "Cargo" and stuff on cars, "Shipment?"

Why are boobs good?
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F*ck you, Im getting IN the plane!
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Why do they call stuff on ships "Cargo" and stuff on cars, "Shipment?"

Why are boobs good?
careful there. people are watching.
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