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Old 03-10-2014, 11:35 AM   #261
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I admire people who are self employed. It takes a lot of sacrifice, responsibility, and long hours, that unfortunately, can have a less than desirable impact on family and life style needs. These are some of the main reasons I never became self employed. I like a set schedule provided by a good employer. And even though my day is nine hours long, I never really "work" to an extreme for more then six actual hours in the day. I've learned to pace myself in that day, but still make a commitment to my employer. That's the contract we have with each other. And at the end of the day, literally, I leave my work at work.
So you don't feel that you owe your employer an eight-hour day?
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:52 AM   #262
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So you don't feel that you owe your employer an eight-hour day?
It's actually nine. And yes, I absolutely owe my employer nine hours of my presence on the job or risk breach of contract. Of course I have breaks, meetings, assements, lunch, and more breaks besides the actual labor or physical work that's required of me. But I'm present for nine whole hours.
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My gosh, I could have had an exciting night in Rome with a traveling beauty from Argentina before you were finished typing all that!
Actually, I hired someone to type it while I was playing XBox. I didn't want to neglect you guys for my own selfish needs. You see, I care
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:34 PM   #264
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...Others actually enjoy the virtual live-in carpenter/painter/paperhanger that moves methodically from one room to the next - he/she becomes part of the extended family.
It always made me a bit nervous when a homeowner really enjoyed my presence. It made me work all the more fast. Although, the one women that fixed her and I a little picnic on her San Francisco apartment living room floor, had the potential to grow into a fine worker/customer relationship. However, I remained prudent out of concern for serious personal injury had her husband discovered us.
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It always made me a bit nervous when a homeowner really enjoyed my presence. It made me work all the more fast. Although, the one women that fixed her and I a little picnic on her San Francisco apartment living room floor, had the potential to grow into a fine worker/customer relationship. However, I remained prudent out of concern for serious personal injury had her husband discovered us.
Hahaha, I can hear the **** music.
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Of course I have breaks, meetings, assements, lunch, and more breaks besides the actual labor or physical work that's required of me. But I'm present for nine whole hours.
Aren't most of your PT posts made during business hours too?

My next employee won't be allowed internet access at work.
When he asks why...I'm gonna tell him a little story about I guy I know named CApainter.


Dammit. I forgot I already washed my hands of this thread!
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:24 AM   #267
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Hahaha, I can hear the **** music.
The word you want to use here is smutnounce. Your welcome.
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The word you want to use here is smutnounce. Your welcome.
Smutnounce is adult video music here on PT? Thanks for sharing.
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At my age (58) I like to put in about 6 hours a day. With those hours I can work at at a fast pace without taking more then a couple 5 minute breaks. My body holds up well with those hours. Anymore then that and my back, feet, etc start to go. I tell the HO upfront the hours I work. I just tell em' that I gotta leave by 2pm to go over to another job. Once and awhile they do give me a little grief about it. When I was younger I sometimes worked 7 days a week but don't want to do that anymore. To all you younger guys, yes, It will catch up with you.
I'm with you. I'm over 60 and 5-6 hours a day is enough for me. As long as the job gets done in the timeframe agreed upon it's all good. I'm done busting my ass.
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I'm with you. I'm over 60 and 5-6 hours a day is enough for me. As long as the job gets done in the timeframe agreed upon it's all good. I'm done busting my ass.
This is why I would prefer hiring a younger worker. My theory is that productivity from most workers over fifty years of age decreases exponentially. Now, as a homeowner, if I was inclined to shoot the sh!t with a worker, I'd probably prefer to have those conversations with someone older in years, who might provide some interesting stories. We might even enjoy sharing our experiences from the 1970's and 80's'. lol!

But I'm not inclined to do so.
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I myself am down to a 6 hour day , I have been a painting cont. for 35 years and spent many years running 80 hour weeks , now i am back to working alone and totally agree with you. I do the same thing i just let them know ahead of time ,I have found most people will accept the time lines for quality work.
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I've been a self-employed painter for 13 years and, because of diversification, only work 2-3 days(maybe 18-20 hours) per week and spend the rest of my time enjoying my kids and hobbies. I recently took on a job locally that i estimated would take 3 days to complete working 5-6 hours each of those days. It peeves the lady when I leave every day at 2:30 to go pick my kids up from school and be finished for the day. I know now that I should have told her before the job started, but would like some opinions anyway. Do we owe the people we work for an 8 hour day? One of the reasons I own my business is to set my own hours, have some freedom, etc.
I give my customers complete respect, but if I'm giving her quality work at a steady pace while I'm on her job (and estimated 3 days to complete) and she has a problem with my schedule, I'd pack it up and wish her a great life....."AIN'T GOT TIME FOR THAT!!!"
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if candy bars can shrink in size yet remain the same price then so can my work day....
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if candy bars can shrink in size yet remain the same price then so can my work day....
G'day Ole

I think the thread can be closed now : ) Thanks
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This is why I would prefer hiring a younger worker. My theory is that productivity from most workers over fifty years of age decreases exponentially. Now, as a homeowner, if I was inclined to shoot the sh!t with a worker, I'd probably prefer to have those conversations with someone older in years, who might provide some interesting stories. We might even enjoy sharing our experiences from the 1970's and 80's'. lol!

But I'm not inclined to do so.
Yes John.

With us old farts, the volume per hour may decrease but the quality per dollar increases.

Do I have to even hint what my customers prefer ?



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if candy bars can shrink in size yet remain the same price then so can my work day....
Close enough. Here's the math: 8 @ $60 = 480 versus 6 @ $75= 450
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if candy bars can shrink in size yet remain the same price then so can my work day....
I don't know where you get your candy bars, Round here they are half the size they used to be and double they price...
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I don't know where you get your candy bars, Round here they are half the size they used to be and double they price...
knowing Ole, he still gets them for free



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I started at 8am it 12.15pm I'm about to pack up for the day and I'm on my little scaffold and notice a Bee stuck In a web : ( so helped it out

Would the 8hr painters stop for a bee ?

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Last section and I'm done : )
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