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Old 06-18-2016, 11:42 AM   #1
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New doors used their primer, let dry overnight, painted two coats of finish , week later bubbling not in direct sunlight any body got any solutions. Thanks in advance
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:19 PM   #2
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Metal or wood doors? Sanded before priming? The only thing I can think of is either the door had some thing on it or it got wet before the paint was dry enough. I really can't say since we haven't used this product yet.
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Fiberglass doors sanded festool 220 grit tack clothed , boggling my mind
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Any pics? We have had issues that years ago would never popup. This new paint I feel causes some of these issues to pop up.
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No pics I'm going back their on Monday to try and fix again , thinking scrape bubbles and spot prime with schellac bin and top coat see if that works
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Bubbling usually indicates a reaction occurring from something present on the door. Sand out, prime with a good oil based sealing primer, and redo.
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Intercoat solvent entrapment. Pop a bubble and see where it goes down to. Smell it too. Smell like mineral spirits? What size are bubbles? FPE is more monolithic because the paint is ground to and shaded to a color unless it was a tinted. It has less solvent so it takes longer to dry. Which finish? Which product?
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Oil base hollandiac navy blue gloss finish
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Oil paint that's bubbling can indicate an underlying moisture issue. The stuff just doesn't breathe. But these are new fiberglass doors so that doesn't make sense either.
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How long did you wait between coats? I'm with NACE in thinking that it's solvent entrapment.


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Did you use their oil primer or the key primer?
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Let them dry overnight between coats
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Did you use their oil primer or the key primer?
If I am thinking correctly they recommend using the key primer and then the oil primer before top coating.
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Primer makes everything better...
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If I am thinking correctly they recommend using the key primer and then the oil primer before top coating.
That is my understanding and how I have always done it.
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Why would you use oil on fiberglass ??? Never seen that done. Myself
every other PC I know uses waterborne / latex on fiberglass doors. My go to is DTM ( late) flows, dries and looks killer when sprayed on those type doors.
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Designer spected it out customer got product , not something I would generally use .
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I've always used FPE on our personal fiberglass doors. I always solvent wipe first. I painted direct to bare. Always used a little of their thinner. Surface temp, dew point, humidity and air temp are always a factor with FPE. The size of the bubbles usually indicates the issue. Large random blisters indicate solvent entrapment. Usually down to the previous coat. Time of day and orientation to the compass effect dry time. If you have a pick that would help. My fiberglass door lasted 10 years in direct sun exposure and never lost its glassy look or color fade.
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As NACE wrote... Solvent wipe important.

I have painted hundreds of FPE doors. We once isolated an issue where it was the silica residue (not all sandpaper just a certain batch) that reacted and caused bubbling.
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