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Old 11-23-2010, 11:14 PM   #21
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I have also seen warehouses that would freeze as well. There is no telling what has happened to the paint we buy. I would shake and strain it and see.

What happens to latex when it freezes that is so bad?
I have had it turn gritty after thaw.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:27 PM   #22
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Me too just a little more stuff in the strainer. Of course you and I live in warm climates, up north and in Canada is a different story. We only usually see one week a year of temps below 30 degrees for more than 10 hrs at a time.
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That is true, last winter I had some stuff go bad in my van. Turned so grainy that it just would not come back from it.
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That is true, last winter I had some stuff go bad in my van. Turned so grainy that it just would not come back from it.
Yep, thats bad, and no amount of straining will save it. Alkyds will "seed" with age, not temperature. No amount of straining will save that either.
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We make a water-based stain that is freeze-thaw stable through 5 cycles. All of that to say - check the specs or call the mfg. to find out the freeze-thaw stability. You can freeze our stuff solid & thaw it out later. It'll still be good. We don't recommend it, but we've had our fair share of customers store their stuff in the garage thru the winter & the product is fine come spring. It's the repeated cycles that can get you in trouble w/ our stuff, but keeping it frozen for a few months is OK.
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I've noticed that Aura doesn't hold up to freezing even once, and brushes wrapped up wet in it are tough to wash out after they thaw...just a tip!
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I've asked coatings-chemists here (@ the Polymers & Coatings dep't. here @ NDSU. Nationally renowned program there!), and a couple Mfr's paint labs.
The answer is always the same...

"Once Latex gets the Cottage-cheese texture all the way through...it's GONE."
"Polymer links break down if cold enough. Thawing doesn't fix them!"

Light freezes are OK if paint is creamy again after a couple hours.

Some of our Akzo-Nobel lines are shipped from Ohio.
October-March shipping (for the upper-Midwest) is on a heated-trailer program.
Up here...-20 isn't uncommon in Jan/Feb.!! Even HEATED trailers can barely keep paint warm enough!! We have to check random cans on a pallet in the winter here...

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I was once told by a More's rep that they build into the paint the ability to be frozen once. They still ship paint by truck in the winter and realize that it may freeze.

That being said, I still would not use it.......
True. I have on rare occasion used paint that had froze, only once frozen however. Key is not repeatedly frozen, and thaw slowly and TEST. YMMV.
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