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Old 12-09-2009, 10:41 PM   #1
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So I have been told if I like SW Cashmere to try Glidden 6011 Eggshell for a little less sheen & also less money. Now I have a bathroom where the Low Luster Cashmere sheen is good. So I'm wondering if the Glidden 6211 Satin is still a decent/ good paint? I know in some lines one sheen to the next changes the paint character too much. Example in the same Glidden line the semi gloss I don't like because it drags glue real fast.

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Old 12-10-2009, 08:59 PM   #2
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I dont know. I do know that Low Lustre Cashmere provides different sheen levels across various cans and colors. I just spread about 20+ gallons of Low Lustre Cashmere past 2 days across 8 colors on a repaint.

This round of paint was thicker than the stuff I used last month and the sheen was high for a low lustre. It was full-on shiny eggshell. Its my experience that the whole quality control in paint is a crap-shoot. I like the thinner easier to spread gallons of Cashmere I did last month vs these 20+ gallons on this batch. I recall Duration Home to be like that too. Even across various colors in the same base. Weird stuff and I dont have answers for that.

Might want to have a can opened before you tint and do a dry-down on cardstock. Compare the two on the same card stock.

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Quality control issues with SW no doubt. Also changes in formulations without anyone knowing or saying what was done.

For many years I used a regional product called Qualicoat from SW in Eggshell. Under $20 bucks a gal, nice coverage and it can be touched up flawlessly. Back in September I bought a color that was like spreading water. When I took it back they said it was that gallon only and never don't know why. They re-mixed the same color and again same crap. Then I watched 4 oz of white going back into the can. ODD. So we opened a white can without tinting it and it resembled what I have used for 6+ years. Two weeks later my salesman gets info back from CC and I was told "sometimes that happens with gold & orange colors." Anyway I am turned off with that product and it WAS my favorite Eggshell for many jobs.
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you want an amazing low sheen paint go with ici diamond mat i freakin love it its an overall amazing paint to spread and when it dries it looks so classy and elegant
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you want an amazing low sheen paint go with ici diamond mat i freakin love it its an overall amazing paint to spread and when it dries it looks so classy and elegant
Well no doubt nice stuff and a personal favorite of mine BUT thats twice the price too. I think he was trying to get more for less but yeah Diamond is primo.
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Not sure if I can find that ICI here in NJ? Benj Moore is a NJ based company and pushed everywhere thus driving others out of the market.
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OK, Follow-up is I used the Glidden Satin today 6211/ 6212. I can say for the price $21 I am impressed. I can say coming from the big orange store I would not hesitate using it again. It surely seemed to be a close match to SW Cashmere or just 1 point below. For $5 a gallon less it would not cause me to make an additional stop at SW if I have to go to Depot anyway.
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think of it as a john deer tractor being sold at the big orange box, or dawn soap, or .. stanley, or...

actual brands ARE sold at retail establishments. BTW SW used to make all walmart's paint..
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actual brands ARE sold at retail establishments. BTW SW used to make all walmart's paint..

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH. We have gone down this road before. A John Deere from HD or a Cub Cadet from Lowe's is not the same as the independent dealers sell. I have a good friend who owns a Cub Cadet dealership and gets stuck with doing warranty work on the Lowe's Cub Cadets since Lowe's of course cannot do their own. They make look the same on the outside but not the same on the inside. Add in the fact that Cub Cadet sets the rates for warranty work and he is stuck fixing a crappier product that some one bought from another store to save a buck and not make money doing it. Sure SW made Walmart paint, that does not mean it is good paint or even have a similar product at SW.
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okay maybe you are right Dean, but the glidden paint is the same. In fact when I was working at ICI they were fazing out the ICI labels for the Glidden back then.
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Sure SW made Walmart paint, that does not mean it is good paint or even have a similar product at SW.
In different parts of the country Walmart sells Dutch Boy & SW owns the company. Would I recommend it or use it? No, because it's obviously different.

Now, for the Glidden it's not the same Glidden sold 6 months ago or later. Apparently sometime over the summer they changed the product and packaging. I believe this is an attempt to regain some interest of painters and not just the typical HO. I typically would never use anything else other than Zinsser primers sold out of those those stores. The "New" Glidden Satin I used shocked me.

Also SW owns Pratt & Lambert but my SW salesman will not tell me what product they have that resembles the P&L that buddy pays $20 a gal for and loves it.
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As far as Walmart is concerned, they approach SW and others and say " we have an order for 50,000 gallons of paint, we will pay $2.99 per gal for it" at that point SW will fill the order. Needless to say that isn't SuperPaint or Cashmere in that Colorplace bucket.
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The "New" Glidden Satin I used shocked me
You are not alone. I was also very satisfied with it recently. I tried it on my own place and will use it again.

Can't speak on longevity, but application, leveling, etc. was very satisfactory. Got almost two coats on a 11.5X12 bdrm with 2 doors and 2 windows. Actually, if I had known it would spread like it did, I could have pushed it a little from the getgo and got 2 complete coats.
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