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Old 06-25-2011, 08:11 PM   #1
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We just had our graduation, 12 existing workers up skilled themselves to have a formal Certificate III in painting and decorating a qualification endorsed by the federal Australian government and recognised by many countries as a standard of excellence.

Up-skilling requires assessment of current skills then training to meet the gaps.

As well as the existing workers we had 4 new industry entrant females as well, these were not in the industry prior to training so they needed to be trained from a base level.

All are employed and doing well, two were promoted to supervisor as a result of the training and many of the existing workers are doing some of there own contracts now.

Other then these graduates in Fiji I also had 2 other women in Papua New Guinea and 1 woman in Vanuatu graduate as well. The formal graduation for PNG was in May and for Vanuatu it be later in the year.

We have a major shortage of skilled painters in the Pacific so though this is good news we are only just scratching the surface.

We recently had a company that wanted 30 painters, I could only identify about four of my students who were not currently working. I know that if they did not take these 4 then they would have been engaged before long any way.

When I first arrived on this project in 2007 it was not uncommon for companies to employ painters from Australia and New Zealand to ensure quality. This is slowly changing now.
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:09 PM   #2
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That is great, sounds like you are really making a difference there.
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This is amazing work Michael!
Congratulations to your graduates.
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Good for you Micheal

So what are wages like in PNG?
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Great work Michael. It's awesome to see a member actually making a difference in the industry and without seeking fanfare or glory. Hopefully others with potential to contribute to helping the industry will follow suit and take some action!



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A great story, should be published

Good job!
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We have a major shortage of skilled painters in the Pacific so though this is good news we are only just scratching the surface.

Would it be possible to get a job just for Nov-April? I may be available
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Good for you Micheal

So what are wages like in PNG?
Wages are pretty low all around the Pacific. A painter in Fiji works for around $1.50 US not sure what my girls in PNG are getting but I believe it is only marginally higher.

It is a shame because companies here have paid top dollar for painters to come from NZ and Australia but won't pay much to people who live here. For example the Casino in Port Vila Vanuatu used local painters to do all the grunt work then had professionals from Australia come through quickly and do all the faux and wallpaper work in one fast hit.

There is a lot of corruption in the Pacific and people are used like slaves. I am hoping that in time more of the painters I train will start out on their own and tender contracts directly. The problem is how do they get capital when they only earn $1.50 per hour?

Any way I will keep plugging away with what I am doing and hope the world becomes a fair place one day.
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Great work Michael. It's awesome to see a member actually making a difference in the industry and without seeking fanfare or glory. Hopefully others with potential to contribute to helping the industry will follow suit and take some action!
I have to be honest here, I am not very benevolent. I work for the Australian Government, paid in top Australian dollars and live very comfortably here with an exchange rate that is crazy. I have made little or no sacrifices myself.

I do care about people here and I do care about the industry becoming professional in time but I am paid to do what I do. So no real kudos to me.

If anyone is interested in seeing more about this project you may find this site of interest www.aptc.edu.au
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Hi TJ

With regard to your question... Sure, come over. I can get you a top rate of $2.50US per hour if you like. I will put a good word in for you.

Seriously though a good painting team working for themselves could do okay. Problem is that it is very hard to get a work permit.

I hope to one day be a citizen here, then I want to support the industry by helping some get started on their own.
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Michael, it is obvious from your posts here and on FB that you care greatly about these people and what you are doing for the industry. It is nice that are also being compensated well, but I bet you do more than what you are required to do!
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With regard to your question... Sure, come over. I can get you a top rate of $2.50US per hour if you like. I will put a good word in for you.

Seriously though a good painting team working for themselves could do okay. Problem is that it is very hard to get a work permit.

I hope to one day be a citizen here, then I want to support the industry by helping some get started on their own.
So you're saying that after working for 10 months I could have my round trip ticket paid for? Seriously, if wages are $1.50/hr, how much does it cost to live there? I know the climate is nice, so is it everybody just vagabonds on the beach every night instead of having a house?
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It is a rough but simple life for most people here. Most grow a bit of root crop and do a bit of fishing. They do with out a lot of things and support each other a lot.

There are a lot of wealthy people here too, not exactly fair the way things are.

Many of the staple are cheap and they for the most part have shanty type homes or small units.
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Sounds like they need labor unions in the Pacific
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Nah, they need a good estimator!
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Wages are pretty low all around the Pacific. A painter in Fiji works for around $1.50 US not sure what my girls in PNG are getting but I believe it is only marginally higher.

It is a shame because companies here have paid top dollar for painters to come from NZ and Australia but won't pay much to people who live here. For example the Casino in Port Vila Vanuatu used local painters to do all the grunt work then had professionals from Australia come through quickly and do all the faux and wallpaper work in one fast hit.

There is a lot of corruption in the Pacific and people are used like slaves. I am hoping that in time more of the painters I train will start out on their own and tender contracts directly. The problem is how do they get capital when they only earn $1.50 per hour?

Any way I will keep plugging away with what I am doing and hope the world becomes a fair place one day.
I was hoping to relocate but TJ asked all my questions and it does not sound that great.
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I was hoping to relocate but TJ asked all my questions and it does not sound that great.
Just think, even if room and board, clothing, and transportation was included besides the 2.50/hr, thats not going to get me on that beach anytime soon....
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Wait a second, I think this 2.50/hr thing is a complete sham. I bet they make decent wages, but hes telling us that in order to keep us from getting any funny ideas about moving down under.
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Wait a second, I think this 2.50/hr thing is a complete sham. I bet they make decent wages, but hes telling us that in order to keep us from getting any funny ideas about moving down under.
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