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Old 05-19-2018, 10:34 AM   #1
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@PACman, you sure have been "testy" over on the sister board, DIYChatroom lately. I sense that your retail clientele is pushing you to your limits after they go to the big box stores, get bad advice, then come into your store and tell YOU what's best for their painting project.

Feel free to vent here.

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Old 05-19-2018, 11:02 AM   #2
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Ya PAC, let off some steam. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...n-video-latest
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Don’t do it publically! Go whine in the business section. Because I care
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i don't have any idea what you people are talking about! I read the diy chatroom occasionally but i don't post there. 95% of the issues they have aren't worth commenting about.
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I felt like the grinch after my comments last night on that DIY’ers porch paint thread. Maybe not as grinchy as PAC’, but still.

It’s tough giving people accurate advice. On the one hand, we have to caution against the misinterpretation of the paint&primer idea. On the other we shouldn’t be to dogmatic in pushing primer as the solution for every problem.

I don’t know why that person did what they did, but let’s imaging someone skimming over DIY chatroom and seeing over and over that primer is absolutely needed when going over oil paint with latex. Skim a little more and you’ll see Bin recommended over and over as the best.

Joe Home owner skimming this material thinks “I should prime my porch floor with Bin” when that’s exactly the wrong thing to do.


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You people need to realize you have a completely different types of people over there. They come for an answer, that they mostly want to hear, and leave to never be heard from again. Bet I haven't been over there for at least 9 years. A completely different crew of Mods also. Have no idea who anyone of them are.

Everybody has different advice to give them, they'll argue back and forth, and the OP is going to end up doing what he figures is easiest for him. Primer and paint will usually do that for them. And, of course, BIN is the best primer for everything.

For people like Pac, these posters look at them as someone who only wants to sell their product, despite his knowledge.

My advice: Don't waste your time replying or giving advice. If you do go there; just consider it "for entertainment purposes only". Shake your head and get a good laugh out of it.
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You people need to realize you have a completely different types of people over there. They come for an answer, that they mostly want to hear, and leave to never be heard from again. Bet I haven't been over there for at least 9 years. A completely different crew of Mods also. Have no idea who anyone of them are.

Everybody has different advice to give them, they'll argue back and forth, and the OP is going to end up doing what he figures is easiest for him. Primer and paint will usually do that for them. And, of course, BIN is the best primer for everything.

For people like Pac, these posters look at them as someone who only wants to sell their product, despite his knowledge.

My advice: Don't waste your time replying or giving advice. If you do go there; just consider it "for entertainment purposes only". Shake your head and get a good laugh out of it.
For the win!!
I've found it to be more frustrating than anything....eh, let em sort it then call a pro to fix it. DIY=job security.

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You people need to realize you have a completely different types of people over there. They come for an answer, that they mostly want to hear, and leave to never be heard from again. Bet I haven't been over there for at least 9 years. A completely different crew of Mods also. Have no idea who anyone of them are.

Everybody has different advice to give them, they'll argue back and forth, and the OP is going to end up doing what he figures is easiest for him. Primer and paint will usually do that for them. And, of course, BIN is the best primer for everything.

For people like Pac, these posters look at them as someone who only wants to sell their product, despite his knowledge.

My advice: Don't waste your time replying or giving advice. If you do go there; just consider it "for entertainment purposes only". Shake your head and get a good laugh out of it.
So.....You're the Grinch?
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I've found it to be more frustrating than anything....eh, let em sort it then call a pro to fix it. DIY=job security.
hahaha job security! Love that...so true + a fix is always more expensive then getting it done right the first time
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You people need to realize you have a completely different types of people over there. They come for an answer, that they mostly want to hear, and leave to never be heard from again. Bet I haven't been over there for at least 9 years. A completely different crew of Mods also. Have no idea who anyone of them are.

Everybody has different advice to give them, they'll argue back and forth, and the OP is going to end up doing what he figures is easiest for him. Primer and paint will usually do that for them. And, of course, BIN is the best primer for everything.

For people like Pac, these posters look at them as someone who only wants to sell their product, despite his knowledge.

My advice: Don't waste your time replying or giving advice. If you do go there; just consider it "for entertainment purposes only". Shake your head and get a good laugh out of it.

Kinda like the HO we all have dealt with that knows how to paint but wants a pro painter for dirt cheep... Hell it's just painting!
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A completely different crew of Mods also. Have no idea who anyone of them are.

We know one of them.


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So.....You're the Grinch?
LOL. Not me. Like I said, got tired of even reading any of it years ago. I'm the type of person that no matter what forum I'm interested in, I take the time to read through the posts and answers. That will usually give you the atmosphere of the place. If I don't find it as a place I want to be involved with, I stay silent. Every once in a while, you'll find some gem of advice that someone pulled out of their keester.

Same with here. A lot of people join but how many are active? I've always figured the percentages have a lot to do with the general tone here. We're supposed to be professionals. We've even set up a few different sections that are off-topic for obviously off-topic comments. I know we all want to have fun, and know that threads will derail. General nature of these places. But when you consider how a new member views it, for the most part it keeps them silent. Just another forum they belong to.

Take that into consideration with how you want yourself and PaintTalk represented.

Like Don Henley said in the song "In the Garden of Allah": "I remember when thing were a lot more fun around here". They actually were and there were some derails of epic and funny proportions. But when it came down to business and advice and how-to's, you actually learned a lot. With out the snide comments.

The forum is what the members make it. The members don't own it. The mods don't own it. Cricket doesn't own it. We just try to keep things in line and civil.


Anyway, that is and always has been my take on things. As a member first and then a mod.
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It's not ALL bad over there. You do get an occasional THANK-YOU. What it does show all too often is that there is more than one way to skin a cat. For example, one current topic is about using plaster products to fix plaster walls. Well, for me, the right plaster product is difficult to find so I've used Durabond for years and years and I can't recall any major callbacks. Some over there say the Durabond is bound to fail yet I've never experienced it. So, who is right? You could argue that both ways work or maybe neither way works.
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We know one of them.


OP.
Ahh. Gymschu. Word of advice: Keep anything related to DIY on the DIY Forum. There's a reason we send them over there with a canned reply here before removing their posts. The Mods here don't step on the Mods toes there and we expect the same courtesy. Thank you.
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Got it. Feel free to delete this thread.
PAC, my apologies. Just poking a bit of fun at you. Your skin is thick so you are quite the entertainment for some of us old-timers.
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No problem whatsoever here. Just wanted to put it out there.
And, I imagine it's gotta be a whole lotta fun moderating over there. Better you than me lol.
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It's hard to take painting as seriously as other critical trades. Especially if you've been in it long enough. All the technical advice is helpful but merely subjective at the end of the day. DIY'ers and professionals alike are going to do it their own way. Particularly since there is little to no formal trade training in terms of painting. And because of that, trying to convey some sort of painting authority to a DIY'er, is an exercise in futility.

And as far as business advice, it seems to me, as an observer over the years, that aside from basic financial management and knowing ones production rates, most of the self employed members really don't need complicated business advice. Especially those without steady employees.

So basically, that leaves a lot of room for extra curricular chat.
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Kinda like the HO we all have dealt with that knows how to paint but wants a pro painter for dirt cheep... Hell it's just painting!
Ugh. Dealt with this to many times in the flood and fire industry.
They aren't even paying out of pocket, and telling me what to do, and how to do it

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It's hard to take painting as seriously as other critical trades. Especially if you've been in it long enough. All the technical advice is helpful but merely subjective at the end of the day. DIY'ers and professionals alike are going to do it their own way. Particularly since there is little to no formal trade training in terms of painting. And because of that, trying to convey some sort of painting authority to a DIY'er, is an exercise in futility.

And as far as business advice, it seems to me, as an observer over the years, that aside from basic financial management and knowing ones production rates, most of the self employed members really don't need complicated business advice. Especially those without steady employees.

So basically, that leaves a lot of room for extra curricular chat.
Really??? So you know all about equipment depreciation schedules, materials percentages, hourly net profitability, proper overhead deductions, withholding for your taxes, Soc Sec, coverage and costs of insurance, and quite a few others?

By golly, you're a genius.
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I was lucky enough to have a business owner teach me all aspects of the business ownership my 3rd and 4th years of being in the business. Took a couple of years. Then keeping up with all the changes that have happened over the years. Not like running the old "T" accounts with hand-written entries.
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