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Old 02-24-2016, 07:29 AM   #21
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Why a coat of primer? Two coats of new finish won't suffice?
I told them there is a chance that two coats of topcoat would work, but they said at this point if they are going to have to pay to have the house repainted they want the best system in a moderately priced paint. That's why, after looking at the perfect storm that created the problem, I recommended a coat of primer.

In fact I first recommended a coat of tinted primer and a coat of Redseal eggshell, but they want two coats of topcoat.
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Old 02-24-2016, 08:24 AM   #22
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Unfortunately the cause will not be discussed by me on this forum.
Ok, that's like the wife saying "we need to talk later" or "nothings wrong".

Maybe I missed it but I thought that was what the post, and this forum, was about.
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Ok, that's like the wife saying "we need to talk later" or "nothings wrong"
There's nothing worse than the silent treatment. Actually, the silent treatment accompanied by the shrug is worse.
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Old 02-24-2016, 08:41 AM   #24
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Ok, that's like the wife saying "we need to talk later" or "nothings wrong".

Maybe I missed it but I thought that was what the post, and this forum, was about.
There are certain key elements in this diagnosis that have become somewhat taboo on PT. Especially when the comments come from me. Lets just say that it was a combination of an extremely bad new construction paint job, using of course a cheap builders flat, followed by an extremely bad paint job done with an apartment grade eggshell paint by apartment grade painters. Homeowner paid for two coats of "paint AND primer" and by looking at the invoice and the leftover paint that was a straight up lie. The painters (both of them) didn't buy enough paint for two coats, in fact I find it hard to believe they bought enough for one coat. The paint they bought was an apartment grade eggshell (per the manufacturers spec's) and was applied extremely thin.

Not the fault of the paint by any means, just the improper use of it, and the $42.00 a gallon the painters charged the homeowner. Knowing what I know of the pricing painters are getting on this particular paint, they bought it for no more then $22-23 a gallon. At a mark-up of $20 a gallon you would think they would have actually bought enough for two coats and sold it to the homeowner as part of the job. I figure they left $200-300 of pure profit on the table with their paint mark-up alone by not doing two coats.

Again, THIS IS NO FAULT OF THE PAINT OR THE STORE IT WAS PURCHASED AT! Just a couple of painters whose work I am becoming quite familiar with. I do hope they keep up the good work though! Regular frickin Rembrandt these guys are!

Ok. that's it from me! Promise!
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[QUOTE=PACman;1130193]Thanks for the input everyone. Unfortunately my comments on this one are done. I went to the home, saw the problem, gave them the solution. One coat of drywall PRIMER and two coats of P&L Redseal. And a painter recommendation. They were such nice people I even offered them a good discount. I felt pretty bad for them.

Unfortunately the cause will not be discussed by me on this forum.[/QUOTE]

You brought the question to the forum for help and your not gonna divulge the cause? Thats just wrong

ps I didn't see the question in time to respond but I
have my hunches as to the culprit.
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Very well said PACman
I think you explained the situation and the cause of the problem.

No need to say what brand of paint it was

Low end painters + crap paint = bad paint job
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There are certain key elements in this diagnosis that have become somewhat taboo on PT. Especially when the comments come from me. Lets just say that it was a combination of an extremely bad new construction paint job, using of course a cheap builders flat, followed by an extremely bad paint job done with an apartment grade eggshell paint by apartment grade painters. Homeowner paid for two coats of "paint AND primer" and by looking at the invoice and the leftover paint that was a straight up lie. The painters (both of them) didn't buy enough paint for two coats, in fact I find it hard to believe they bought enough for one coat. The paint they bought was an apartment grade eggshell (per the manufacturers spec's) and was applied extremely thin.

Not the fault of the paint by any means, just the improper use of it, and the $42.00 a gallon the painters charged the homeowner. Knowing what I know of the pricing painters are getting on this particular paint, they bought it for no more then $22-23 a gallon. At a mark-up of $20 a gallon you would think they would have actually bought enough for two coats and sold it to the homeowner as part of the job. I figure they left $200-300 of pure profit on the table with their paint mark-up alone by not doing two coats.

Again, THIS IS NO FAULT OF THE PAINT OR THE STORE IT WAS PURCHASED AT! Just a couple of painters whose work I am becoming quite familiar with. I do hope they keep up the good work though! Regular frickin Rembrandt these guys are!

Ok. that's it from me! Promise!
something like this , maybe?
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something like this , maybe?
What is it that the politicians always say? "I can neither confirm nor deny that comment at this time." But like I said, the paint wasn't the problem. It only didn't provide the solution so it can't be blamed.

But that is definitely one of the prettiest commercial paint cans there is, isn't it?
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As thin as the original paint seems to be, as evidenced by checking some closets and a utility room, (i understand they were probably not painted the same as the rest of the house, but they were the only place I could look at the original "paint".) it didn't matter what they used. They could have put Aura on it. As thin as the re-paint was it would have done the same thing. Again, if they were making themselves a nice $20 a gallon profit why wouldn't they even use enough paint? Then again, none of us are brain scientists are we? Or rocket surgeons for that matter.
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