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Old 07-05-2008, 10:38 PM   #1
 
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HO wants me to cut with a brush then immediatly roll over it with a mini roller so that there is no brush marks. I normally cut with a brush then just roll and accept the small amount of brush marks that are present. Anyone ever done this HO's technique or have any other ideas?
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:42 PM   #2
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On a wall?

I'll use a modified French Roll if specified
Rub/roll off the ends on the main wall (no blobs)
Then cut in as close as possible to the line with the roller
Done with care, you can get within about 1/4"

I wouldn't want to use/wet yet another tool
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Never did or heard of that, Can some one say change order?
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I always cut in with a brush first and then roll sideways at the ceiling line to minimize brush marks. Works pretty well.
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what kind of brush marks are they worried about? Drybrush or like peaks and valley brush marks? Do they mean pictureframing? Use aura or Jason says progreen works too but they do not pictureframe if that is the concern. Better yet ACCUBRUSH!!!
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Sounds like they dont like hatbanding. Like Jason says, that little extra coat effect where the roller comes into the cut. Good idea.



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If it's picture framing, now is your chance to sell two coats, (cut AND roll twice) and you have both the reason and resources. We always sell two coats and that is one of the reasons.
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i had that request on the one i am doing now it does look better but make sure to price in the extra time as it will slow you down
all we did was tape all the frames off and just used the roller to cut in all the low stuff
we just priced in a case of tape and the extra time for a labourer and in the end it was prolly faster
though i didnt like using tape like that
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what kind of brush marks are they worried about? Drybrush or like peaks and valley brush marks? Do they mean pictureframing? Use aura or Jason says progreen works too but they do not pictureframe if that is the concern. Better yet ACCUBRUSH!!!
Don't know about Accubrush. I was thinking the same thing about the type of brush marks or is it pictureframing he is referring to.

I always sell the second coat, actually I insist on it since it's my reputation on the line. If one coat is being used how can you prevent the picture framing? Just seems a given to use two coats in most cases. We are talking interiors, right?
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I try to cut the brush marks out. I get as close as I can with the roller and then come back with the brush and fill in. Once thats done I come back with the roller and run the end of roller closer to the ceiling. It works pretty well for me. Grant its more time consuming but its worth it in the end.
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Severson, in doing all that you just described, when using a paint with a sheen level, aren't you creating more build up that shows due to sheen?
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Not talking about picture framing. 2 Coats ALWAYS, but HO doesn't like the natural brush marks that come from cutting in the room. I always cut then roll first coat then cut and roll second coat. I tried cutting in with a nearly dry brush on both coats and he was still pointing out brush marks. In the end, today I cut in every line and then rolled it over with a sausage roller to leave only 1/4'' of "possible" brushmarks. I would have to say it nearly doubled the time it takes to cut the rooms in. Looks excellent but man!
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lol...tape it off and roll up to it...
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I would just stop dipping out of the can that says BEHR on it I guess. Lol but I would think you could get closer to the walls with a regular roller because the wiennie rollers or sausage rollers or wizz rollers have nap on the ends for rolling corners. I guess if you could keep paint off that you would be golden though.
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flotrol will help eliminate brush marks and hatbanding.
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Hey MichFan= How do you know HO is a SHE?
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I hope he is paying you extra for this crap. In two weeks when the paint has cured no one will notice what you have done.
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maybe try rolling tighter.
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What kind of brush are you using? maybe a cheap one? if so try a nicer one.
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I dont think you have mentioned what paint you are working with. Sometimes a lower end paint shows more. It can be a leveling issue. For example, Aura levels so nicely its hard to find where the roller comes into the brush cut.



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