Here are the images from around the community that was painted 3 years ago in Southwest Florida. The garage doors and the stucco trim bands are the same color and have some discoloration issues. I dont have 20 posts yet so I had to type out "dot" just replace it with an actual "."
imgur dot com/a/WYFo98Z
Can someone help me try and figure this out? I thought maybe it was just normal fade (even though it's only been 3 years) but the same product was used on all garages and in picture #8 the garage looks perfect still.
In picture #5 and #6 the resident clean and scrubbed that bottom right panel with soap and water and it looks brand new compared to the rest (especially the bottom portion).
can't see the pics. But my guess would be chalking. What paint did you use and is this worse on any particular sides of the the homes? It could also be caused by a non-exterior pigment, but whether that is the problem or nor depends on what brand of paint (and therefore colorant) was used.
went to the imgur site and pulled those pics up. If the H/O can clean it off that much that was (is) some pretty cheap a55 paint whatever it was! To do that in three years? Was it PPG Prosiding plus by chance?
actually a decent paint applied way to thin could do this as well. Asking what paint it was would help me determine whether this was the case or not. Also what type of colorant was used. Someone could have sprayed that with Duration just thick enough to get a consistent color and depending on what colorants where used it could do this.
Well, Im still going with garbage paint, with the difference being that some of them were sprayed better than other ones. Maybe some were two coated and some werent... Maybe they thinned down the paint...
I can see spray lines and overlap patterns on the faded ones.
When I did houses like that, we used elastomeric and sprayed and backrolled the entire house, then came back with a regular exterior paint and rolled the trim. Garage doors would have been sprayed the body color, in elastomeric.
I would highly doubt that was superpaint used. Maybe they said it was, but most likely Duracraft. Duracraft fades like that in 2-3 years. And, that color is not dark, a heavy tinted white or deep base at the most. If it was flat paint, then for sure, but a satin would be better.
How do you not consider that a dark color? Its damn near oxford brown, (or should be) you can see on picture #5 where they touched it up, and its dark as hell.
Im color blind?? So, its not as dark as oxford brown, but that sure as hell aint a light color in a white base, like you claim... Thats a dark color in my book.
I think we have had this problem before on one of your posts. You either do not read my entire sentence or you read what you want to see. I did not quote anything that you had said, but made a comment based on the pictures and what I see. As you know I worked for SW for 13 years, not a homer by any stretch, but have extensive knowledge of their product line and insider knowledge of things you might not understand. I stand by what I posted, so stop attacking me like I came after you.
"And, that color is not dark, a heavy tinted white or deep base at the most."
To me it looks like Portabello, SW6102, its a deep base. Oxford brown is very dark, tinted in a neutral base.
My guess like was mentioned was a cheap flat paint was used and perhaps over thinned, or an incompatible tint was used perhaps on site, ot different paints were boxed together.
A guy I used to work for would buy mistint paints for super cheap from Kwall and adjust the color himself to close to whatever if the homeowner was good with close to the existing color and really never had any issues.
But one house at the entry street to a neighborhood we did a lot of work in started fading on the 2nd year and 5 years later they had another company repaint it when our jobs usually lasted great for 8 to 10 years.
We never knew why we had the color failure but it bothered us everytime we drove by the house cause we were the best in the area.
Bottom line is that a repaint is going to have to happen. Use the most fade resistant paint available, Benjamin Moore's Aura - it's designed to be colorfast in the deep base colors. It costs more, but you won't have unhappy customers in 3 years.
I've seen SuperPaint fade drastically within 3 years on a darker green, but that brown . . . wow. In all fairness, there's a reason why paint is tested using S Florida exposure. It's one of the worst environments. Too bad none of the manufacturers warrant against fade. Just peeling & blistering. And for those that, on a special occasion, do provide a fade warranty, it's so loose (like 1-2 delta is acceptable) that it wouldn't matter anyway. Just a worthless piece of paper really.
Use a high quality Ben Moore product. I have a Cardinal Red that hasn't noticeably shifted in several years and had a recent firehouse repaint (red) that had to be redone due to Timeless fading as well.
Benmoore and Cali are the only companies not using glycol based colorants
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