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Old 04-09-2014, 12:11 PM   #21
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People like to believe everything they see and hear, so if one guy is telling the masses how things are correctly done, and they believe him,, it will cheapen our trade.

I haven't watched any of the videos you guys are referring too, but I don't need to. I've seen enough videos on YouTube to get the gist of it.

Then again, if people are educating themselves on YouTube before they call me, they are probably not the people I am looking to work for anyways, so I guess it really doesn't concern me in the least.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:31 PM   #22
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Some of you crack me up.
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To hell with his pricing and marketing strategies, he can't be any good - just look at his tats.
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The amount of YouTube videos you have does not have any indication of how well your painting business does,

The age old sq foot of floor space price is getting out of hand.

How much floor space you have in a home has no relevance to how much the house should cost to paint inside or out, period. Anyone who prices this way, or expects you to price this way has no idea of there real numbers so they are just happy to keep landing work with these foolish estimating tactics.

Sure, use it as a guideline... "The last home like this one we did came it to $4.50 a sq ft. So it should be somewhere near there"

But not as an accurate estimate which your income depends upon. Insane that this is how it is done by a lot of painters IMO
I agree that square foot number means jack squat. The scope of work, and the end product is what matters.

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Goes back to one of my old posts on being a craftsman vs being a business man. Is he qualified to make a video on pricing? I don't know.. who would be though?
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I'm sure at a base price that is a fair amount. Start adding extra's like, eaves and trim different color than the body, garage door, front door, upgrade paint, etc.

I average around $1.50-$2.25 for exteriors. Stucco homes are pretty easy though, not like the all wood homes some of you all have to deal with. What are your averages? $3.50?
I agree, It's a whole different ballgame in the east with all the wood siding and all.
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His prices are too cheap, so regardless of how many U Tube hits he has, he's not earning what he should.
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I like how he asks for donations lol
Maybe he does quote to low
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He's charging 175 to spray a flat door, which is not bad.
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With over 250 youtube videos & over 4million views on his channel I would say he is doing just fine.
Great, so now 4 million people believe they should only have to pay $1/ft to have their houses painted. What a crock of sh!t.
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Before I drive out to an estimate I always ask several questions pertaining to the job including if they received an other quotes. From this I give them a ballpark sq. ft. price so I don't waste my time.

I'm not sure this guy is claiming he charges $1 a foot or is just using it as an example. I think it's a great tool to get your phone to start ringing. He states that the price changes. I bet he's never sold a job for $1 a foot and the video is clearly working for him.

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Great, so now 4 million people believe they should only have to pay $1/ft to have their houses painted. What a crock of sh!t.
No, but I bet his phone is ringing, his crews are busy, and he figured out a system that works for him.

Yes some outfits are production based, and others are craftsman, ultimately the homeowner decides what they want from who they want.
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People like to believe everything they see and hear, so if one guy is telling the masses how things are correctly done, and they believe him,, it will cheapen our trade.

I haven't watched any of the videos you guys are referring too, but I don't need to. I've seen enough videos on YouTube to get the gist of it.

Then again, if people are educating themselves on YouTube before they call me, they are probably not the people I am looking to work for anyways, so I guess it really doesn't concern me in the least.
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"My price here in Idaho is going to be different.... ". Now there's an understatement!

I'm just glad that I don't live in the same Idaho that he does. Woof.
Do you live in your own private Idaho?



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East coast or west coast charging $1.50 a sq ft of floor is nuts. Pick up a painting book from the 80"s on running a paint business or estimating that's what most painters were charging then -- its now 2014!!

It will always boggle my mind how hard painters are willing to work for so little money. Painting here has gone backwards in pricing not forward and it's the so called painting contactors fault . A good friend of mine who owned a local independent paint store for 30 plus years used to say. I can count the number of businessmen that come into my paint store on one hand.
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Thanks for that.

It's a bit of a running joke that there are actually two Idahos: North Idaho and South Idaho. Some people even say that South Idaho is really North Utah.
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You do know there is a recession that we are still climbing out of. There was a huge construction bubble that burst and these rates and wages are the result
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To hell with his pricing and marketing strategies, he can't be any good - just look at his tats.
Tats out number his stats!
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No, but I bet his phone is ringing, his crews are busy, and he figured out a system that works for him.

Yes some outfits are production based, and others are craftsman, ultimately the homeowner decides what they want from who they want.
Bet his ears are ringing as well!
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I actually find his videos to be really good. He has some pretty good tips & tricks to share. Also, I watched a few videos of him prepping houses, and doesn't seem to be missing anything (as in mask windows with 3M Masker, tie down bushes, mask everything in the house to spray woodwork).

I think he's doing just fine, lol.
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