I have a contract with a new client (Hotel) so not say the name but its a (Super #)...lol:whistling2:
I have contracted to paint all interior doors, 75 doors.
the doors are solid veneered doors.
my question is.....
Would you leave them hung, prep prime and paint(roll)
or
Would you remove them prep prime and spray.
I have a contract with a new client (Hotel) so not say the name but its a (Super #)...lol:whistling2:
I have contracted to paint all interior doors, 75 doors.
the doors are solid veneered doors.
my question is.....
Would you leave them hung, prep prime and paint(roll)
or
Would you remove them prep prime and spray.
My thoughts exactly. How can you submit a bid without knowing how long it take, or if you need to prime, or how many coats??? These are all things that need to be in your estimate, or at the minimum discussed with the project manager and not PT.
Removing them would be the ideal situation, but I doubt a motel would want all their doors removed for an extended amount of time...
The reason for me asking if you would remove the doors or leave them hung and would you prime and paint or just 2 coat the doors was I was curious how you folks would handle it if you where a one man show.
I will be doing the doors hung some doors will need to be primed do to bonding issues but 90% will be prep and paint.
Every thing is in the contract and has been discussed in length the the PM.
Sorry if you guys thought I meant "help I don't what the heck Im doing"...LOL
I was just curious how you on-man show guys would handle this kind of job.
what I see here is my perceived notion, is that he is really asking what other pros would do so he can finish his bid so he might get the job. but it boggles my mind to read one of these and go how does one stay in business when one does not know how long it would take or what way to do the work, or how many coat to use.
Figure out how long it would take you to prep/prime and paint one door and then multiply by the number of doors. Paint the doors in place is the simplest way to go. Primer is only necessary if bonding is an issue or the surface is unsound or incompatible with the top coat. On the face of it: $50-$75 per door.
without seeing the doors I can't comment on whether they should be primed or not. I would need to know what's on there now,how well is it holding up ans what is the finish paint?
But I would definitely do them in place
If I were to guess...scuff sand,wipe down with denatured,2 coats All Surface Enamel
From my experience in painting many hotels I would leave them hanging. Hotel doors weigh a lot more than your typical house doors. If they also have "asso abloy" key function which are the magnetic key card entrance types and you drop one of those doors and break one of those be prepared to leave the country because the cost to replace one of those is not cheap.
BTW do not spray in a hotel unless all fire alarms are in test mode. The over spray and fumes will trigger the alarms.
Just my $.53 cents......
I have a contract with a new client (Hotel) so not say the name but its a (Super #)...lol:whistling2: I have contracted to paint all interior doors, 75 doors. the doors are solid veneered doors. my question is..... Would you leave them hung, prep prime and paint(roll) or Would you remove them prep prime and spray. Remember I am a one man show. Thanks Guys for any advice.
One coat tinted primer possibly ONE finish coat if you have a decent "pigment mixer". Leave them hung, use a 6 inch cigar micro fiber roller, arrow worthy makes them I believe.
As a 1 Man Show, you could offer to do one at cost and then give them a spot on proposal for all 75. That would be the most accurate. (Be sure and pick the worst possible door as your test door.)
Clean.
Degloss.
Clean.
Prime.
2 coat.
$90/door.
Make sure you mention how crappy the old jambs are gonna look next to your professionally painted doors.
There are a lot more variables here.. We did an apartment buildings doors, frames, and corridors this summer.. Some days we made money, some we didn't.
do you have access to every door at all times? Do some doors need to remain closed? Is the Super 8 closing for you to paint? Will there be somebody within a few minutes reach if you need a door unlocked? Do you have easy access to an elevator? Do you have a clean up station? Do the doors need to remain open over night? Do you need to have a very low odur paint? Do you have a room you can set up as a shop every night? Have you tested adhesion for the paint that has been specced?
After doing the building that we did this past summer I would plan for the absolute worst case scenario, and I would hate to do a job like that on my own. We had 4 of us going, and that was bad enough. We sent our laborer to knock on and get each door opened every morning. We had to have 22 Door stops to prop each door open for the day. The doors that were locked we had to get the Super to come and announce himself and unlock the door. We had 20 wet paint signs to put up and take down every day. We had to give notices the day before we arrived and post them all over the building. We had tenants trying to talk with us all day every day.
It was a learning curve alright, and if I did my job over again, I Would double my price.
This is a great example of how customers get so confused over painting prices. To me i would never imagine a reason in the world to take doors down in a situation like this and how could that not add to the cost
Ya, I would certainly do them in place. I see no reason to take them down.
If they are 6 panel doors I'm probably adding some extender, rolling, then laying off (is this the same as when I read people say tipping off?) with a brush. If they're flat I'm rolling and laying off with a paint pad. Stick a space heater on it while I do the next one and try to get them finished and back open to the hotel as quick as possible.
Getting their rooms back as quick as possible is going to be the most important factor in whether or not you get to do any more.
Thanks for the input guys. The reason for me asking if you would remove the doors or leave them hung and would you prime and paint or just 2 coat the doors was I was curious how you folks would handle it if you where a one man show. I will be doing the doors hung some doors will need to be primed do to bonding issues but 90% will be prep and paint. Every thing is in the contract and has been discussed in length the the PM. Sorry if you guys thought I meant "help I don't what the heck Im doing"...LOL I was just curious how you on-man show guys would handle this kind of job. Thanks Guys.
I am a one man show an I have actually done a job exactly like this except mine was repainting doors an jambs in oil in a retirement home now that was fun! Nearly every single resident I noticed had some oil base paint on their clothes lmao! Anyway you should just leave the doors hung an plan on just doing two coats as far as the ones with "bonding issues" I would just spot prime them with cover stain (rattle can) an call it good.
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