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Old 12-05-2015, 07:21 PM   #1
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I'm sick of looking at the crappy tile baseboard in my bathroom. Not only do I think it's cheap and ugly, but it was poorly done too.

The wife gave me the okay to paint it. I'm thinking breakthrough for the finish, but does Bullseye 123 really stick to this?
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:24 PM   #2
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Use the XIM
Why play around?
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Breakthrough probably won't need a primer. If I was priming I would use Stix or similar. 123 isn't as good at bonding IMO since it's an all purpose primer. Yes it sticks good but prob not as good as a specialty bonding primer
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:36 PM   #4
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That STIX is good stuff. I'd go with that.

That 123? It takes too long to dry and set up thoroughly, and in the meantime it is subject to get scratched.
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Xim all day long. Never used Stix though. Is it a Canadian thing? I've never even seen a can...
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I have had good luck with coverstain sticking to tile before.
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Good stuff. Next time it comes up try it. It's real easy to work with and it does grab.
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Why don't you chisel it off and put some new base on?


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The guy did such a bad job. Some of the tops have grout, some don't. I don't want to damage the stuff on the floor (even though I don't like it) we don't have any replacement pieces. Also the way he made his corners make it a major PITA
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PPG Amerlock 2 it's what I use on floor tile. Overkill? Maybe...but I have yet to get a callback.

Whatever you use, etch the tile first.
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Xim all day long. Never used Stix though. Is it a Canadian thing? I've never even seen a can...
Can't be a Canadian thing. Too many guys from the US in this thread talking about it. I think I've seen it up here, but haven't tried it. 123 has pretty much always been my go to primer, but I should give Stix a shot. Lots of folks have said on here that 123 has gone downhill over the past decade or so. I've only been painting for 13yrs or so, but I haven't noticed anything.

Can't hurt to try something new. Actually, it can. But that can be fixed.

Never seen a can of xim.
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never laid eyes on Stix, here, either. What company produces it?
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I was wrong. My local BM store sells it.
http://insl-x.com/dealer-locator
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If regular BIN doesn't stick to it, is there a chance Stix or UMA will??? I always thought of BIN as the ultimate. Like, if there's one product you don't want to get on something you don't want painted, it's BIN.
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Xim is worse. I ruin respirator cartridges each use, whereas everything else I can at least get a couple uses out of em.

And God forbid you forget your spray hood and get it in your hair, might as well cut it all off
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Xim is worse. I ruin respirator cartridges each use, whereas everything else I can at least get a couple uses out of em.

And God forbid you forget your spray hood and get it in your hair, might as well cut it all off
Tell me about it... I have long hair. Keep it pulled back but always end up cutting some hairs off after using a few different products. Xim is one of them. :p
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123 is not a decent adhesive primer anymore. Xim UMA, Insul-x Stixs are pretty good. Cali grip coat blows them all away for adhesion and the short period of cure time required to get that adhesion. It is scratch resistant pretty much over night on clean glazed tile. It has impressed me and I don't impress easily when it comes to any paint.
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The guy did such a bad job. Some of the tops have grout, some don't. I don't want to damage the stuff on the floor (even though I don't like it) we don't have any replacement pieces. Also the way he made his corners make it a major PITA
Couldn't you take an angle grinder and a diamond blade (carefully) to the joint at the floor? That would separate the two at least and reduce/remove the chances of damaging the stuff on the floor. I've been using an angle grinder to do all my tile cutting for about a year now. It's done a great job for me.
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Xim all day long. Never used Stix though. Is it a Canadian thing? I've never even seen a can...
Stix is an Insl-x Product. They are GREAT! (Now owned by BM) Ask your BM dealer because they are the only ones allowed to carry the product now.

I LOVE INSUL-X STUFF!!
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