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Old 09-07-2014, 08:52 AM   #21
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Disfavor it has earned from the pros?

Please explain what to expect from interior behr paint at $24.00 per gallon (as in ages), as apposed to Sherwin Williams / Benjamin Moore $24.00 per gallon (as in ages)?

What signs of paint failure should I look for regarding behr interior painting aging, and how many years after its application? 3 years, 5 years, 10 years?

And specifically, which behr product did you use in your home? What surfaces did you paint: walls? ceilings? trim and doors? and which sheens?

Can you give me the TOP reasons why most HO's have interior painting done? Honestly, I find that most HO's repaint (interior), due to a desire for color change, not paint failure.
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I used it recently too. It was ok. But like TJ, the HO bought it, so I didn't have to go into HD for it.

I won't go into a HD in my whites, and when I see painters there in whites (or paint-covered jeans), I look down my nose at them.

And when a hack looks down his nose at you, you know you've been looked down upon pretty good.

...but you don't really care.
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I used it recently too. It was ok. But like TJ, the HO bought it, so I didn't have to go into HD for it.

I won't go into a HD in my whites, and when I see painters there in whites (or paint-covered jeans), I look down my nose at them.

And when a hack looks down his nose at you, you know you've been looked down upon pretty good.

...but you don't really care.







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Would anyone else like to confess? You'll feel so much better once you get it off your chest.....
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Would anyone else like to confess? You'll feel so much better once you get it off your chest.....

I'll confess. I used some that the HO purchased and it almost drove me nuts. This was just the Behr premium plus flat enamel, not the ultra.

One wall had some stains and patches that I primed with a spray can of Coverstain like I often do. This usually isn't a problem, especially when the wall is flat to begin with. But with this stuff the primed spots flashed like crazy. Attachment 25484

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Then in another area of the house, micro bubbling occluded for seemingly no reason. This was a hallway, not a bathroom or anyplace contamination would be expected.
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And of course the running problems where the roll overlapped the cut that seem to be a common issue with Behr paint.

I haven't used this stuff much, an am trying to keep an open mind despite the bashing it takes from many pros. I know some pros swear by it, so there must be something to that. Maybe I just haven't figured out how to apply it yet, the few times I have tried have been way less than satisfactory.

Ahh, your right I do feel better
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Over the years as it ages, I am understanding the level of disfavor it has earned from the pros.
Are you or any pros expecting a low costing paint to perform miracles?

Is there another brand that sells semi-gloss enamel for $26.96
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that performs as good, or out performs behr at the same price? My guess would be NO.

I can understand b*tching about a product, if you paid top dollar for it.
But at $26.96 per gallon, I would hope a pro would know what to expect from the get-go.
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Are you or any pros expecting a low costing paint to perform miracles?

Is there another brand that sells semi-gloss enamel for $26.96
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that performs as good, or out performs behr at the same price? My guess would be NO.

I can understand b*tching about a product, if you paid top dollar for it.
But at $26.96 per gallon, I would hope a pro would know what to expect from the get-go.
Dulux.

For the top of the line paint (diamond) I pay $35/gallon. So yes, I can get a high quality enamel for under $30
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Covered great and applied real easy. I used a proform 3in angle brush.
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The client was very pleased. I said I was mildly impressed...
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I totally agree. It looks wonderful and applied with ease. Its longterm durability is doubtful and is why I always avoid it.
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  1. Covered great and applied real easy
  2. The client was very pleased
  3. It looks wonderful and applied with ease.
Arch, why would a pro be dissatisfied with a product that is inexpensive, goes on with easy, and gives the client 100% satisfaction?

Wouldn’t it be a benefit to the painting contractor, to apply a product that ages poorly over time, however, gives the client 100% satisfaction? I mean, are we in business to give the client a life long maintenance free paintjob? It seems like Behr paint would give the painter future repeat business sooner. Sounds like the perfect product to me.

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Dulux.

For the top of the line paint (diamond) I pay $35/gallon. So yes, I can get a high quality enamel for under $30
I said 26.96.
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lol... Hmm...
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I'll confess but never repent!
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Are you or any pros expecting a low costing paint to perform miracles?

Is there another brand that sells semi-gloss enamel for $26.96
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that performs as good, or out performs behr at the same price? My guess would be NO.
Guess again Junior.
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Guess again Junior.
Nice try!

The $26.96 per gallon is not my price, it's the retail prices on the HD website.

Your "Gold Customer" high volume prices are nice, but what is the retail price on Ultra Spec? Lets compare apples to apples.

http://www.grainger.com/search?searc...+500+INT+S%2FG
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Dang, you got me
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  1. Covered great and applied real easy
  2. The client was very pleased
  3. It looks wonderful and applied with ease.
Arch, why would a pro be dissatisfied with a product that is inexpensive, goes on with easy, and gives the client 100% satisfaction?

Wouldn’t it be a benefit to the painting contractor, to apply a product that ages poorly over time, however, gives the client 100% satisfaction? I mean, are we in business to give the client a life long maintenance free paintjob? It seems like Behr paint would give the painter future repeat business sooner. Sounds like the perfect product to me.

Could be some of us prefer a different business model?
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Could be some of us prefer a different business model?
Which is? Fewer repeat customers?

Did you ever do a complete interior repaint and say to yourself, "guess I won't be hearing from them for a long, long, time"?

It's a shame the billion dollar a year Tabaco industry, isn't as compassionate as pro painters.
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Which is? Fewer repeat customers?

Did you ever do a complete interior repaint and say to yourself, "guess I won't be hearing from them for a long, long, time"?

It's a shame the billion dollar a year Tabaco industry, isn't as compassionate as pro painters.
Lol. That's your analogy; cigarettes/ cheap paint?
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Damn you TeeeeeJaaaaaaaaaaaay

Well, the OP was talking about exterior paint. Its nice you get a lot of callbacks
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  1. Covered great and applied real easy
  2. The client was very pleased
  3. It looks wonderful and applied with ease.

Also, 1 and 3 are the same
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Are you or any pros expecting a low costing paint to perform miracles?

Is there another brand that sells semi-gloss enamel for $26.96
per gallon
that performs as good, or out performs behr at the same price? My guess would be NO.

I can understand b*tching about a product, if you paid top dollar for it.
But at $26.96 per gallon, I would hope a pro would know what to expect from the get-go.
I, for one , just don't get cheap paint, be it cheap price and or just cheap. As for performance of said cheap paint, that speaks for itself, over and over and over again, no thanks
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