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Old 05-23-2009, 03:44 PM   #1
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... Valspar is a decent paint.

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Old 05-23-2009, 04:18 PM   #2
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... Valspar is a decent paint.

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maybe it is , but if your standing in line at the paint counter at the big box store and have your paint made time and time again by someone who doesn't know or care about paint then it is not good paint...

Service is key...
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I haven't used Valspar for about 25 years or more. Back then it used to be one of the best here in the UK. I haven't heard much said about it for a long while so can't comment on it's quality now. I've got a feeling that there's different formulas used in different countries by the brands. I've seen Glidden mentioned here a lot as a low end paint but the quality here is actually okay - Probably in the mid range.
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I used to sell and use a ton of Valspar paint. The stuff that I had was great, but like every paint maker, they also make some garbage. The key is buying from a store that you can trust to give you the good stuff (i.e., not Lowes)
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I haven't used Valspar for about 25 years or more. Back then it used to be one of the best here in the UK. I haven't heard much said about it for a long while so can't comment on it's quality now. I've got a feeling that there's different formulas used in different countries by the brands. I've seen Glidden mentioned here a lot as a low end paint but the quality here is actually okay - Probably in the mid range.

glidden is owned by ICI which IS the largest paint company in the world. All H.D.'s glidden paint is actually ICI paint. And I think it is a very good product.. not all their stuff is top shelf, but they have their levels.
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I absolutely agree...as long as you buy the higher end of most paints you will be fine.

It's the service & knowledge(lack of) that I can't deal with. Sometimes if a customer has chosen a color from HD or Lowes & I only need a couple of gallons We will pick it up there.
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glidden is owned by ICI which IS the largest paint company in the world. All H.D.'s glidden paint is actually ICI paint. And I think it is a very good product.. not all their stuff is top shelf, but they have their levels.

ICI is now owned by Azko Nobel a dutch co that makes Sikkens and ton of other things..

Glidden was good in the 70's when they were there own company ICI turned them into there cheap line.

Also when ICI was on its own it was the largest chemical company in the world not paint manufacturer.
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maybe it is , but if your standing in line at the paint counter at the big box store and have your paint made time and time again by someone who doesn't know or care about paint then it is not good paint...

Service is key...
My local Do It Best Center carries the gold label valspar. I dont know the name of the line. But, i used that stuff because a ho bought it. I had no prob with it. If it wasnt for my great relationship with my reps, id give em a whril.
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"I don't care what ya'll think"

Then why post about it?

I prefer to use materials associated with professional painters. In addition to the many quality comparisons I prefer to use my manufactures of choice. Quality is really irrellevent in a way because it would be the perception of a DYI contractor. IMHO
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I used eggshell Valspar from a Do-it-Best store once, and it was pretty good stuff. It was the top of the line product from there. The customer was the owner of the hardware store and a friend of the family, so I let them provide there own paint. Another time, a customer had bought the Valspar from Lowe's and that time, all 5 gallons were supposed to be one color, but none of the gallons matched at all. 3 of them were not even close to any of the other gallons. They were all tinted by computer at the same time as well, except for 1 of the 5 gallons. I think it has a consistancy that works well and is forgiving for DIYers but does not lay off quite as nice has higher end products in the hands for skilled painter.
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"I don't care what ya'll think"

Then why post about it?

I prefer to use materials associated with professional painters. In addition to the many quality comparisons I prefer to use my manufactures of choice. Quality is really irrellevent in a way because it would be the perception of a DYI contractor. IMHO
I use this title for the sake of starting a discussion.

You trying to take a stab at me?
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I have always said good things about their interior varnish, but that's about it.

Just like I am a fan of McCloskeys Man o' War Marine Spar Varnish, but their other products in my opinion will not be bought purposely for the high end jobs I contract unless the home owner buys it and if they do the labor charge goes up for working with sub-par materials.
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Valspar is sold from Lowe's. Do any professional painters by their paint at Lowes??

Beyr is sold at Home Depot. Do any professional painters buy thier paint at Home Depot.??

Just say no to Behr and the same for Valspar.
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Valspar makes some quality products:

House of Color paints (custom motorcycle/cars)

Quickrete

Cabot's stains.

Saying that you dislike something because a product is sold at a store you don't like is pretty petty. If they sold beer at lowe's and home depot would you stop drinking it?

They sell purdy and wooster products at HD and Lowes. Do you use another brand because of that? Or do you use them because you like them period.
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Valspar makes some quality products:

House of Color paints (custom motorcycle/cars)

Quickrete

Cabot's stains.

Saying that because a product is sold at a store you don't like is pretty petty. If they sold beer at lowe's and home depot would you stop drinking it?

They sell purdy and wooster products at HD and Lowes. Do you use another brand because of that? Or do you use them because you like them period.
most of us know tho that the Purdy and Wooster dumb down there products for big box stores. Yes Valspar is huge company and makes a lot of products I still use Cabot until Vapspar messes it up which is probably in the works. I do not buy Cabot from Lowes's I buy it from a paint store along with my brushes etc.

Paint sold in BB stores is geared and marketed to HO's and DIY'rs plain and simple. I in my OP in this thread did not say Valspar was bad paint I mention the service aspect of getting products sold by peopl ewho don't care abou twhat there selling or having the lady from the garden center help in paint because no one is there at the given moment I am looking to have something made.

Also I would buy beer from Lowes or HD they probably mess the mixing of that up as well... here's a thougth I buy my beer from a store that sells "beer"
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I know and respect somebody that has worked at wooster for years. They have different levels of brushes, but they don't "dumb down" their products for mass marketing.

He made a good point. Why would we risk our reputation? There are enough price points for everybody.

Purdy? I don't know. Personally bought a Purdy brush at a big box cause I needed it pronto. Did not have any problems. But what do I know?

Where's Jack P when you need him?
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I know and respect somebody that has worked at wooster for years. They have different levels of brushes, but they don't "dumb down" their products for mass marketing.

He made a good point. Why would we risk our reputation? There are enough price points for everybody.

Purdy? I don't know. Personally bought a Purdy brush at a big box cause I needed it pronto. Did not have any problems. But what do I know?

Where's Jack P when you need him?
I believe it was Purdy doing that maybe not wooster, but yes wooster has many levels of sundries and the cheaper ones seem to be at the BB Store.
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I use this title for the sake of starting a discussion.

You trying to take a stab at me?
So this thread is really just you trolling for a heated debate.
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I pay less for paint through my supplier then I could ever get at a box store, let alone the service and warranty. Top end, professional, commercial products.

That alone makes it a simple decision.

I judge a product by its longevity. Even the cheapest products go on and look nice that first year. How do they look 5 or 10 years from now?
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Why would they dumb down a tool?
Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!
Is Dwalt, Robyi, Makita or Bosch dumb down?

Lowes is my place when i need to go to a bb. I just bought a cordless drill set 2 drills and a flashlight for 90 bucks
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