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Old 06-24-2010, 10:10 PM   #21
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The way I understand it is wise doesn't want to hire. He's trying to keep the quality up there.
Quality up (relative term, we all saw the venetian plaster lol) and prices down = success



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Old 06-24-2010, 11:26 PM   #22
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$165-$250 one side. door left on hinge and sprayed closed from outside. Hinge edge painted with a brush. Cash. 1 hour max of labor.

Priced from newer door to door that needs cleaned and minor sanding.
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I thought it funny they wanted to hire someone, but they also wanted to tell someone how to do the job.
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$165-$250 one side. door left on hinge and sprayed closed from outside. Hinge edge painted with a brush. Cash. 1 hour max of labor.

Priced from newer door to door that needs cleaned and minor sanding.
That sounds nice, but here if you can get $80 or so you're doing pretty good.
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I'd tell them they couldn't afford it cuz I'm such a great painter. And if they got somebody else thats their loss. I'd rather be the best than make money.
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being realistic about it.. taking the door off and doing all the prep and spraying.. and waiting for the door to dry to put it back on.. I think TD was probably right on the money.. you are looking at a good portion of the day to do this one door

I know it was a joke, but had me thinking from the get go about what it would actually cost.. and how people like to complicate something in the name of "cheaper".
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:22 AM   #27
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That sounds nice, but here if you can get $80 or so you're doing pretty good.
Yeah thats when you let someone else do it. I dunno what to say about those low bids... I helped a guy bid a house last month.. he came to me with his bid at $3400 and I straight up looked up at him and said... "what are you.. on crack"? I helped him go over the bid and told him to bid $3300 over his bid and he got the job.
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I'd charge anywhere from 175-375 depending on the door condition, where it was at, etc. If it was a real pain, I just wouldn't do it.
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being realistic about it.. taking the door off and doing all the prep and spraying.. and waiting for the door to dry to put it back on.. I think TD was probably right on the money.. you are looking at a good portion of the day to do this one door

I know it was a joke, but had me thinking from the get go about what it would actually cost.. and how people like to complicate something in the name of "cheaper".
Being realistic.. dont ever take a day to paint 1 door. Go work for the guy that takes all day to paint a door. Thats why you dont pull them.
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I had a door to do for the old ComPany I worked for, I had to Plastic off the room beside me ( sensitive birds ) plastic off the doorway itself, strip it, ( textured fibreglass ) get all the residue off, thinner wipedown, prime wait, paint, wait, paint.

At the end of the the job ( spanned 2 days to minimize wait time for drying ) between driving from another site and setting up twice i, remove replace hardware twice etc.t ended up taking 9 hours total. My boss absolutely flipped out because he figured a super conservative sit on my @$$ doing nothing budget would be closer to 5.

He almost fired me for it

Guess I suck at painting
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My mexican buddy Jose will do it for 20 bucks.

He accepts cash cheque and most major credit cards
Just correcting a little mistake in here: Jose doesn't have a bank account, he is illegal but still do it for $20.00 (Cash only) but lunch is on you for being so considerate and supplying the red paint... ... ..... lol

Just being funny... Poor Jose...
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I had a door to do for the old ComPany I worked for, I had to Plastic off the room beside me ( sensitive birds ) plastic off the doorway itself, strip it, ( textured fibreglass ) get all the residue off, thinner wipedown, prime wait, paint, wait, paint.

At the end of the the job ( spanned 2 days to minimize wait time for drying ) between driving from another site and setting up twice i, remove replace hardware twice etc.t ended up taking 9 hours total. My boss absolutely flipped out because he figured a super conservative sit on my @$$ doing nothing budget would be closer to 5.

He almost fired me for it

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I think the original post was a color change... sounds like you have more going on by stripping a door which obviously would raise the cost of painting a door but I still see no need in pulling a door to paint it. Exterior sides of the doors can easily be done by pulling the seals and running paper into and around the jamb, (be sure to V pocket the cuts) top sides and across the bottom. Close the door and shoot it fine finish style. 12" paper should be plenty but even going twice as wide wouldnt take much more time.
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I think the original post was a color change... sounds like you have more going on by stripping a door which obviously would raise the cost of painting a door but I still see no need in pulling a door to paint it. Exterior sides of the doors can easily be done by pulling the seals and running paper into and around the jamb, (be sure to V pocket the cuts) top sides and across the bottom. Close the door and shoot it fine finish style. 12" paper should be plenty but even going twice as wide wouldnt take much more time.
I didn't pull it out, left it in place but had to plastic off the doorway since it was EXTREMELY freezing cold out
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I didn't pull it out, left it in place but had to plastic off the doorway since it was EXTREMELY freezing cold out
I woulda said "too bad so sad, you waited to get your door painted this far into the season, tough luck, its gonna get cold up in heaa!!"
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In all seriousness, by the time you figure in everything outside of actually painting the bleedin' door like; travel time, fuel, setup, prep, (assume the door needs a fair bit of TLC), straining the cooties out of the HO's paint, watching paint dry between coats, cleanup, travel time and more fuel, it's probably the better part of a day. I wouldn't feel guilty about charging $450. Everyone has their price, that's mine. Someone's gotta help me cover my OH!

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No one likes to give advise when it comes to cost ..Why is that like that here on this site ?? I bid jobs based on my cost not the painters I am in competion with . You have to consider your cost of living expenses. Your overhead paid labor, insur rates, comp,etc.. then find your hr pay charge.. I could care less what scotts painting or dan darrs barn painting charges.. find your own rate . The catch is not to over bid and under bid.
So you're saying that I should come up with my own #'s but make sure they're the same as everybody else's? Is this a zen koan?

I think exterior paint projects should be based on points. Just like real estate agents and mortgage brokers. An agent gets 3% of the sales price of the home. They set up some marketing on line, pay their desk fee and shake some hands. They do not risk their lives on ladders or expose themselves to carcinogenic chemicals.

I think a new paint job can add 5-10% to the value of a property depending on a couple variables (type of home, condition of paint to begin with). To make it economically in the interest of the client the price might be 3-6% of the value of the property.
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Being realistic.. dont ever take a day to paint 1 door. Go work for the guy that takes all day to paint a door. Thats why you dont pull them.
what are you talking about? I was being realistic in that if you want the correct finish, allow enough time to dry etc. etc.. it is nearly a full day's worth of "babying the door".. what the ell' do you mean by go work for someone who takes all day?! Makes no sense sorry.. can't follow your logic on that one.
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