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Old 02-21-2016, 03:38 PM   #1
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...I'm hit with the funk of something biodegrading in my paint. Kelly Moore has been notorious for this. It smells like a glass rotten milk with cheddar cheese wrapped in a gym sock.

So, I bought the five of KM Antique White about a year ago. It had the funk in it when i bought it, but decided to throw a little Clorox in it to eliminate the smell. It seemed to work without compromising the paint performance. A little hillbilly chemistry I guess.

Here I am one year later with the same five, and the same pinkish goo. I'm like, Eff this, I need the paint now! So I carefully pour off the goo, and replace with five parts water to one part of Clorox. Approximately, a six ounce mixture to roughly one and a half gallons of paint. Plus, a dash of vanilla extract.

Now, my house smells like someone decided to bake pasteries in an Eboli decon facility after an apocalyptic outbreak.

And to add more drama to a bleak weekend, my car was stolen in front of my house at 1O AM! I have video but can't share it due to an ongoing investigation.

My eyes are actually tearing up from the Clorox gassing off. Or perhaps, it's because I loved that little Honda of mine.

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Old 02-21-2016, 04:42 PM   #2
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Wtf?

You have had the same 5 for how long?
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My weekend was so much better than yours. Sorry to hear your troubles, if we lived closer I would give you paint so you didn't have to use rotten stuff.
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by adding all that Clorox, you actually added VOC's to your paint. the bleach will eventually leave the dried paint film, my guess is about a year or two(not kidding). either close all your windows, and crank the heat up for a few days, and maybe this will "cook" the paint film for you...or wait for the smell to go away...or seal the paint with a good primer...like KILZ or COVERSTAIN. don't bother to waste your time with a waterbased primer..no matter what the label says it will do. good luck..

sorry about the car.
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... It smells like a glass rotten milk with cheddar cheese wrapped in a gym sock.

How do you know what that smells like? Just curious.

.....my car was stolen in front of my house at 1O AM!.....

.....I loved that little Honda of mine. .
OH no!,not the one with a bazillion miles on it?!
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Two hundred and fifty thow of dedicated service. I hope the thieves didn't mangle it too bad.

As far as knowing what a gym sock wrapped mound of cheddar cheese dipped in butter milk, smells like, I have a pretty vivid imagination.

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Wtf?

You have had the same 5 for how long?
It has a two year shelf life. That's typical for a lot of paints.
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That's how my wife said I looked when I saw the empty space in the drive way where my car was supposed to be.
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by adding all that Clorox, you actually added VOC's to your paint. the bleach will eventually leave the dried paint film, my guess is about a year or two(not kidding). either close all your windows, and crank the heat up for a few days, and maybe this will "cook" the paint film for you...or wait for the smell to go away...or seal the paint with a good primer...like KILZ or COVERSTAIN. don't bother to waste your time with a waterbased primer..no matter what the label says it will do. good luck..

sorry about the car.
My guess is it will dissipate not unlike my bathroom when I nuke it with Clorox.

Short of smelling like a crime scene cleanup up, most of the flies and Mosquitos seem to have vanished. Good thing, right?
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My weekend was so much better than yours. Sorry to hear your troubles, if we lived closer I would give you paint so you didn't have to use rotten stuff.
Thanks. I could only hope to be so generous.
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Sorry to hear about your car. The paint, on the other hand, not so much. You know better!
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Sorry to hear about your car. The paint, on the other hand, not so much. You know better!
To tell you the truth, everything turned out great. A couple,of seasons of McGeyver seems to have paid off.
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i think I need to take tomorrow off,
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VOCs my arse--never seen a bunch of dead folks lying by an indoor swimming pool.

Good on you for being thrifty and BTW, I drive "high mileage" vehicles myself and I'm a better person (with more money in my pocket) because of it. Not sure what to think of the trashy thieves in this case, however. A joyride in the way back machine maybe?


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My wife now drives my little beater of a Honda '93 hatchback. 250K kms on it and it still drives like a sports car. I love driving that thing. It feels like riding a motorcycle.

Since we moved here though, it seems like it's a right of passage for everyone in town to at least have one crack at hitting it with their car and driving away without saying anything. Poor beast looks like hell. It's lost some weight from all the parts that have fallen off of it.

One thing I will say about it is that if I had any vehicle to drive through deep snow that would be the one. Put some snow tires on that thing and it becomes a tank. I've owned it since '99 and I can't remember once getting stuck. Ever.

Why'd you continue using the paint when it smelled like that tho?
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You should have used ammonia instead in all honesty. The manufacturers use it themselves for controlling bacteria in the paint to keep a good shelf life. (Among other things.) This may explain the strange odor you have now. A teaspoon of ammonia per gallon at the very most is all you need. Thus the high ammonia smell of some paints.

and I have a brand new can of Ultrahide 220 that already smells like rotten socks!

Or you could have used a little mercury! That works also. Or some elemental silver.
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You should have used ammonia instead in all honesty. The manufacturers use it themselves for controlling bacteria in the paint to keep a good shelf life. (Among other things.) This may explain the strange odor you have now. A teaspoon of ammonia per gallon at the very most is all you need. Thus the high ammonia smell of some paints.

and I have a brand new can of Ultrahide 220 that already smells like rotten socks!

Or you could have used a little mercury! That works also. Or some elemental silver.
I was also considering Lysol disinfectant, but I didn't have any of that, or ammonia. I feel the diluted solution of hypo only became part of the solvent vehicle rather than encorporated into the resin, and eventually gassed off during coalescence. Actually, everything barely smells of fresh paint this morning.

The reason I used the paint was because I needed to match an existing ceiling and wall where there would be no natural square off point. And in typical KM fashion, the color blended perfectly.

However, KM needs to remedy this problem. I will enquire more about it to them and share their response.
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I was also considering Lysol disinfectant, but I didn't have any of that, or ammonia. I feel the diluted solution of hypo only became part of the solvent vehicle rather than encorporated into the resin, and eventually gassed off during coalescence. Actually, everything barely smells of fresh paint this morning.

The reason I used the paint was because I needed to match an existing ceiling and wall where there would be no natural square off point. And in typical KM fashion, the color blended perfectly.

However, KM needs to remedy this problem. I will enquire more about it to them and share their response.
Don't be too pi55ed off at KM. The EPA has been really going after anti-bacterial additives for paint manufacturers the last few years. I'm sure KM is using the best that they can. They really can't plan for paint being stored for that long. If the odor is going away then that's good. And no mercury poisoning.
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I don't recommend adding Clorox, or anything that isn't recommended by the manufacturer. This isolated incident was merely a result of trying to save a buck, not having a lot of area to paint, getting a perfect color match, and just trying to save time.

I could have driven five minutes away to KM...if I HAD A FREAKIN CAR TO DRIVE!
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