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Old 11-21-2011, 11:21 AM   #41
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I agree with the tiers a bit, but say you used Aura majority of the time and it was equivalent to 40k of the 50k you spend.. Now on Aura we are giving you a phenomenal deal of 41.99 but when you NEED say Advance, for cabinetry or whatever, they charge you 62.00 and hope you don't catch it on the invoice.. so you get a great deal on the first 45k you spend, but we'll make up for it on the here and there purchases which are equivalent to significant dollar amount on an annual basis, in this example it would be 5k.. Now a 50k account isnt significant enough to cut the crap and give straight pricing? In reality isn't 10k annually significant enough to not want to lose that account? Not to Sherwin Williams.

If a guys spending 50k a year at my place, pricing is about the least of his concern. If we have a good relationship, hes getting referrals, help estimating, a high credit limit, and special terms on payment when needed. I have no problem letting a guy ( who I know well ) go longer than 30 days if I'm told in advance. Some big jobs go 60-90+ days.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:55 PM   #42
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I spend about 15-18k a year 50/50 between SW and Porter. I get master hide at just under 8/gallon for an apartment complex but my store manager tells me it's below cost. I pay somewhere between 22 and 25/gallon for PM 200 low VoC. I only use the low VOC because they corrected the hatbanding issue in the flat in certain colors. Plus you can get deep base in it.

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see the value in Aura and certainly not Duration on interiors unless it covers in one coat all the time.
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Unbelievable how some guys here complain about a gallon of paint costing $25. A gallon of anything I buy costs me anywhere from 80 to 200, and that's before I add in the catalyst.

Customer pays for the stuff - didn't you get the memo?
What are you using? Endura? And the reason people complain is because you spend so much with a supplier you should get a price break. We average 6-8 thousand a month on paint. Gives you that little extra percent of income. Which is always nice.
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Nc1. Ditto on your general consensus.
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Getting 400 flat at around 20.00

200 flat at 25.00

I use these most so I know them off hand.

Oh and Solo Semi for 30 I think.

What do you pay???
I have a new rep so I think its time to talk.
You think?
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I used to work for SW as an: Asst Mgr, Mgr then sales rep.If you want better prices tell them so and then start using their competition. SW has good products but are overpriced. You're paying for the high salaries of the executives and marketing. I see some of these prices on here and I just can't believe some of you would pay that. A few prices are fair but many of you seem too loyal and have zero leverage. SW will do anything not to lose your business. Why should you pay prices that aren't even fair. It's all about negotiation. They do have a "volume based price" system but you can get what you want. They need you!
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I used to work for SW as an: Asst Mgr, Mgr then sales rep.If you want better prices tell them so and then start using their competition. SW has good products but are overpriced. You're paying for the high salaries of the executives and marketing. I see some of these prices on here and I just can't believe some of you would pay that. A few prices are fair but many of you seem too loyal and have zero leverage. SW will do anything not to lose your business. Why should you pay prices that aren't even fair. It's all about negotiation. They do have a "volume based price" system but you can get what you want. They need you!
Sometimes guys have to lie in the bed they have made. If they have no leverage, it is their own fault, not SW's. They have no leverage because they probably are cash basis customers, who purchase $10k annually, complaining about prices the whole way and wanting top notch service.

We are witnessing the final round of purging of two decade bloated economy that made it too easy to become a "paint contractor."

Move over a couple of thread discussions here and you will find out how to make $6/gal primer work, no matter how labor intensive it becomes (labor is free evidently).





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Old 01-16-2012, 07:01 PM   #49
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I never did like SW. The products are ok, don't get me wrong.

It was the atmosphere. Nothing felt like a relationship, not like the other places I do business with. No personalized service, or Saturday morning talks over coffee and donuts. No heart to hearts, etc..
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So your looking for a wife or "significant other" at your paint stores?
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I feel the opposite really TJ, I don't think their products are that great especially not worth the asking price at this time with the alternatives available to me. The stores have changed for the worse somewhat, but my rep is great and knows his products.
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