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Pressure cleaning ! I'm totally burned out from doing it. I've been trying hard for the last 2 years to only pressure clean when I will be painting the exterior of a house ,(which I'm also trying hard not to paint exterior anymore). And it never fails every year at least 25 phone calls from previous customers that ask Me to pressure wash for them, and I end up doing it for them. I sure wish I could paint interior all the time , but it never ends up that way. Hiring someone to do this for Me is totally out of the question, where I live they are all drunks or pill heads .


You live in Utah too?!!!! “Drunks and Pill heads”


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Pressure cleaning ! I'm totally burned out from doing it. I've been trying hard for the last 2 years to only pressure clean when I will be painting the exterior of a house ,(which I'm also trying hard not to paint exterior anymore). And it never fails every year at least 25 phone calls from previous customers that ask Me to pressure wash for them, and I end up doing it for them. I sure wish I could paint interior all the time , but it never ends up that way. Hiring someone to do this for Me is totally out of the question, where I live they are all drunks or pill heads .
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...pre qualify over the phone before they earn your physical presence for an on site estimate...or work out an estimate fee...either will weed out the tire kickers...
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One other thing that I hate to do and I wish I could eliminate is giving estimates. Those darn things consume VALUABLE time. The guy that wants one usually lives 30 miles away and you can only catch him in the evening at 8 o'clock. The estimate always takes an hour it seems. Then you have to write it up, send it out, and hope to hear back........ugh.
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Easy: Punch list.

I would get rid of no-fault punch lists.

We *constantly* have to fight with GC's that think painters are there to repaint surfaces as many times as necessary. I'm not talking about stuff that is our fault either. I'm talking about things that other trades on the job have beat to hell after we were supposed to be "finished".
I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've had to borderline yell at the Super.... "It's three coats, ....THREE COATS!,...not five coats, not seven coats, ...three!"
Of course we always figure in a little punch list & touch up time in our number, but not much. You can easily "cover" yourself right out of a job.

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Easy: Punch list.

I would get rid of no-fault punch lists.

We *constantly* have to fight with GC's that think painters are there to repaint surfaces as many times as necessary. I'm not talking about stuff that is our fault either. I'm talking about things that other trades on the job have beat to hell after we were supposed to be "finished".
I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've had to borderline yell at the Super.... "It's three coats, ....THREE COATS!,...not five coats, not seven coats, ...three!"
Of course we always figure in a little punch list & touch up time in our number, but not much. You can easily "cover" yourself right out of a job.
Or, sometimes two coats.
I did a job about 2 years ago. It was for a guy that my employee knew who was flipping a house. He was a cheap man. My employee, who was also my cousin, dealt with him. We told him more than once that the walls, which were all new plaster, would need one prime and 2 coats of paint. He insisted on s prime and one finish coat.

After dealing with the idiot, I told my cousin that I will never work for him again.

Fast forward a few months, my cousin tells me that the guy was telling him that we did a terrible job, and that he had to hire a painter to put second coat onto the walls.


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"Fast forward a few months, my cousin tells me that the guy was telling him that we did a terrible job, and that he had to hire a painter to put second coat onto the walls."

@Pete Martin the Painter, and, let me guess, the "painter" the guy hired was his Uncle's nephew's cousin who needed some summer work to pay for college and the guy generously paid him $4 an hour.
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I would like to eliminate hauling all the stuff in and out/clean up. You know, just come in like a dentist and all my sh** is laid out ready to roll...then I collect a check and walk out.
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I would like to eliminate hauling all the stuff in and out/clean up. You know, just come in like a dentist and all my sh** is laid out ready to roll...then I collect a check and walk out.
The worst is when you finish a job mid-day and then load everything up and bring it to the next job. Very tiring. When I end a job, I often arrange it so I can bring my stuff to the next job the day before I start. That way I do not have to load my truck, unload it in my storage, load again the next morning, and the unload at the job site.

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I would get rid of window washing. We always wash the windows of an exterior job if it's a full repaint or we wash the whole house. It does impress the customer but I just hate it.


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I would get rid of window washing. We always wash the windows of an exterior job if it's a full repaint or we wash the whole house. It does impress the customer but I just hate it.


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I used to do that too, jr.sr. but gave up when I couldn't find a window cleaner or a mix of something to eliminate streaking. Sometimes with the streaks the windows ended up looking worse than if I had just left them alone.
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I'd like to stay away from homes that have kids! (Especially big Know-It-All kids!!!)
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I used to do that too, jr.sr. but gave up when I couldn't find a window cleaner or a mix of something to eliminate streaking. Sometimes with the streaks the windows ended up looking worse than if I had just left them alone.

DAMP (Not Wet) MICROFIBER RAGS! Just polish & move on. Not exactly washing but it works really bloody well! No streaking. I discovered this one accidently one day at home, what an "Ah HA!" moment!
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I used to do that too, jr.sr. but gave up when I couldn't find a window cleaner or a mix of something to eliminate streaking. Sometimes with the streaks the windows ended up looking worse than if I had just left them alone.
Newspaper used to be the trick to streak free windows. It did not matter what cleaner you used as long as you used newspaper for the rag. When they switched to eco friendly ink, that put an end to that. I have not been able to clean a window without streaks since.
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DAMP (Not Wet) MICROFIBER RAGS! Just polish & move on. Not exactly washing but it works really bloody well! No streaking. I discovered this one accidently one day at home, what an "Ah HA!" moment!
I'm going to try your way and see if it works any better then what I'm doing. I tried a few of the methods in this article on how to clean windows without streaking and I found one method using a squeegee with plain water and vinegar works. I have to do it just right for it to work though.
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We use a squeegee and carry old bath towels for drying the squeegee. A two gallon bucket of water with a few ozs of ammonia


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I'm going to try your way and see if it works any better then what I'm doing. I tried a few of the methods in this article on how to clean windows without streaking and I found one method using a squeegee with plain water and vinegar works. I have to do it just right for it to work though.
If you're going with my method, here is how I do it: dump a few rags in a bucket of water with a couple of cups of vinegar then spin them out in the washing machine. Pack into a plastic grocer type carry bag with a spray bottle to mist any that got to dry. You'll want a few so you can swap out when they get to nasty. ALSO, tee shirt rag or even terry towel work just as well. Keep a window scrapping blade on you for paint spots or other sticky stuff.

That link shows good & "Proper"method if you want to become a professional window clean but it's way more trouble, tools and product than I want to carry as a painter!
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If I need to carry around 2 gallons of water, towel and squeegee, I might as well become a professional window cleaner. I don't even do that for my own house.
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I could have never been a window washer. Those skinny ladders they work off of are just crazy!
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An old client of mine had the best homemade mixture, well, it worked the best for me although, it too, left streaks at times. Warm water and a 3:1 warm water to ammonia mix using only 100% cotton rags to both clean and dry. I've even tried the new foam spray stuff, and, initially, I thought it was the bomb, but, when the sunlight hits the windows I see streaks using it also.

I don't like cleaning windows, but, when you're doing ONLY the windows on a home, it looks especially nice after fresh paint AND clean windows.
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Decks.
Decks are going the way of the dinosaur, just like my knees.

And while I'm at it, you guys using water-based deck stains in Wisconsin...you know that is going to fail, right?
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