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certified my firm by sending application to EPA 5 25.00%
attended a RRP class and am a certified Renovator 7 35.00%
a Lead Abatement certification 2 10.00%
no plans on being certified or working on pre 1978 homes 11 55.00%
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:02 PM   #1
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I have not done the firm certification yet. Since MI will start self regulating this fall, it was hinted at that it may be smart to wait for the state to take over and register then to avoid wasting $300 for a few months of certification.
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Chris Wright (and others) at CT have posted a lot of good info here

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Do you guys think that this would be a worthwhile endeavor? I have only had 1 call in three years asking about lead paint removal. I don't advertise for it, so I can't use that number as a strong indicator.

Does anyone do a lot of lead remediation work?
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Do you guys think that this would be a worthwhile endeavor? I have only had 1 call in three years asking about lead paint removal. I don't advertise for it, so I can't use that number as a strong indicator.

Does anyone do a lot of lead remediation work?
This isn't about optional certification for lead abatement/etc.

This is about a mandatory gvnt rule that goes into effect on Apr 22, 2010 about having to be certified if you paint any pre 1978 homes or else face some pretty stiff consequences.

Read up the links RC posted.
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Y is correct. This has nothing to do with being able to offer new services, rather being able to do what your typical painter has always done on pre-1978 homes. It would be illegal for you to even paint a pre-78 home without being certified, even if you do not disturb the paint.
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I was certified back in November.
Filed for firm certification a few weeks back.
Got a few guys going to training end of this month.
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This isn't about optional certification for lead abatement/etc.

This is about a mandatory gvnt rule that goes into effect on Apr 22, 2010 about having to be certified if you paint any pre 1978 homes or else face some pretty stiff consequences.

Read up the links RC posted.
I can't stress this enough! Any pre 1978 home all work disturbing more than 6 square feet per room or 20 square feet per exterior side (electrical, plumbing, paint, hvac) must be done by a certified firm with a certified renovator on site to document. The fines are reported to be 32,000 per day, per violation.
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Also, I have read that these rules are going to be applied to commercial properties next.
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Check out this brochure for contractors released by the EPA. Answers a lot of questions. Well read on and see what you think. http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/sbcomplianceguide.pdf
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I have a question...I haven't done the course yet, so maybe they cover this.

Is there a place to order in bulk the brochures we're supposed to present to HOs? Or are we expected to print these 20page things ourselves? I looked on the EPA site but didn't see any options to order, maybe I missed it?
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You have to print them! You can order one from the site, here is a thread on it

I am thinking you can present the brochure to the customer, go through it or leave with them, and then have them sign off.

Or have a batch printed up.
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You have to print them! You can order one from the site, here is a thread on it

I am thinking you can present the brochure to the customer, go through it or leave with them, and then have them sign off.

Or have a batch printed up.

From the link you posted, which one of the 50 or so do we NEED to give the HO. I have not yet taken the course but have signed up. I am assuming that info will come from them but just thought I would get a jump start on gathering info.
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Here is a link to the PDF you need to provide to HO, there is a place for them to sign on the last page.

I think I may have posted this, but Sean at SLS Construction has posted some very good information on his blog here.

Don't forget to send in your Firm Certification Application, it can take up to three months to process and you do not need to have the training for that.
More info here.
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Here is a link to the PDF you need to provide to HO, there is a place for them to sign on the last page.

I think I may have posted this, but Sean at SLS Construction has posted some very good information on his blog here.

Don't forget to send in your Firm Certification Application, it can take up to three months to process and you do not need to have the training for that.
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What is the fee for application and when is it due?
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I think I just answered my own question by checking the links you provided. $300.00 Submit with application. Then the training is another 2 to 3 hundred $ and covers you for 5 yrs? Thanks for those links
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For those who are licensed. Is it going to be a requirement to maintain your license? We haven't heard anything like that here??????
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I believe there is a refresher course every 5 years. And of course with that will be license renewal fees I am sure.
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I believe there is a refresher course every 5 years. And of course with that will be license renewal fees I am sure.
Here we are required to have a contractors license for each countyand you must have 16 hours of continuing education every 2 years in some counties. Will the lead program be a part of maintaining your contractors license?
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With the pandora's box this could open,possible law suit by f'd up HO, I might opt for not working on pre 78 homes even if certified!!!!
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