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Old 07-30-2019, 03:36 PM   #1
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Got a job where I need to stain and finish trim and doors. I've used SW PreCat lacquer but looking to switch and give Lenmar a try. Has anyone used this? It would be the 1D.334.
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Got a job where I need to stain and finish trim and doors. I've used SW PreCat lacquer but looking to switch and give Lenmar a try. Has anyone used this? It would be the 1D.334.

Yes I stock this stuff. Lenmar knocked it out of the park, awesome product. Cure out nicely and lays down like a dream. Water White, won't amber the wood. Generally good pricing too.


Lenmar alkyd wiping stain kicks ass too We use it a lot on alder sometimes also with daly's benite as a prestain conditioner which has interesting effects with this stain.
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Yes I stock this stuff. Lenmar knocked it out of the park, awesome product. Cure out nicely and lays down like a dream. Water White, won't amber the wood. Generally good pricing too.


Lenmar alkyd wiping stain kicks ass too We use it a lot on alder sometimes also with daly's benite as a prestain conditioner which has interesting effects with this stain.
Thanks! I'll be trying it next week!
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Used to use Gemini products, now after using Lenmar for a few years I can say I like it. Only used the precat on one job to try it out and felt that job after job their regular lacquer was just fine.

I must say using SW sanding sealer once I felt it sands way easier. I do not know the benefits of precat but I save a few bucks using regular lacquer.
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Used to use Gemini products, now after using Lenmar for a few years I can say I like it. Only used the precat on one job to try it out and felt that job after job their regular lacquer was just fine.

I must say using SW sanding sealer once I felt it sands way easier. I do not know the benefits of precat but I save a few bucks using regular lacquer.

precat lacquer and conversion varnish have a much tighter crosslinked film. They cure faster, harder and are more abrasion and chemical resistant.


Can't wait for lenmar to finally start making some more waterborne options!
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precat lacquer and conversion varnish have a much tighter crosslinked film. They cure faster, harder and are more abrasion and chemical resistant.


Can't wait for lenmar to finally start making some more waterborne options!
I see that Lenmar's DuraLac only comes in white, is it tintable? Also, how does it brush and roll, or is it only sprayable?
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precat lacquer and conversion varnish have a much tighter crosslinked film. They cure faster, harder and are more abrasion and chemical resistant.


Can't wait for lenmar to finally start making some more waterborne options!
I see that Lenmar's DuraLac only comes in white, is it tintable? Also, how does it brush and roll, or is it only sprayable?
The waterborne?

It is tintable both the white and clear. Dark colors can be made by removing 8oz colorant from the clear base.

It's meant to be sprayed but can be brushed or rolled. Sets up really fast though so your unlikely to leave a good finish unless sprayed
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What’s Lenmar’s equivalent to Kem Aqua waterborne?
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What’s Lenmar’s equivalent to Kem Aqua waterborne?
The current waterborne options are fairly basic. They can be optionally post catalyzed with aziridine crosslinkers like many other waterborne lacquers and can be custom tinted. The waterborne undercoaters are very nice and can be used under most other waterborne finishes.



PreCatalyzed Waterborne clear:
http://www.lenmar-coatings.com/produ...rethane-finish


Waterborne acrylic clear:

http://www.lenmar-coatings.com/produ...c-clear-finish


Waterborne acrylic white:

http://www.lenmar-coatings.com/produ...c-white-finish
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precat lacquer and conversion varnish have a much tighter crosslinked film. They cure faster, harder and are more abrasion and chemical resistant.


Can't wait for lenmar to finally start making some more waterborne options!
I was told from the paint sales guy that you did not need to use sanding sealer with the precat which may seal the wood like a sealer but I found that it is harder to sand so I am glad I did not listen to him but I could be wrong. I also used the

Yeah I always wondered how a whole trim job would look with conversion varnish, I suspect that is what most pre-finished cabinets are coated with.

I got a gallon of exterior lacquer once, I believe the manufacturer was called Rudd? are you familiar with exterior lacquers? I got like 4 doors out of the gallon back in my residential repaint days. It was great to use vs Spar urethane but have never found it again.
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Coco, whats the big difference between the Duralaq and the Megavar?
I too would like to experiment with these products..

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The current waterborne options are fairly basic. They can be optionally post catalyzed with aziridine crosslinkers like many other waterborne lacquers and can be custom tinted. The waterborne undercoaters are very nice and can be used under most other waterborne finishes.



PreCatalyzed Waterborne clear:
http://www.lenmar-coatings.com/produ...rethane-finish


Waterborne acrylic clear:

http://www.lenmar-coatings.com/produ...c-clear-finish


Waterborne acrylic white:

http://www.lenmar-coatings.com/produ...c-white-finish
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I was told from the paint sales guy that you did not need to use sanding sealer with the precat which may seal the wood like a sealer but I found that it is harder to sand so I am glad I did not listen to him but I could be wrong. I also used the

Yeah I always wondered how a whole trim job would look with conversion varnish, I suspect that is what most pre-finished cabinets are coated with.

I got a gallon of exterior lacquer once, I believe the manufacturer was called Rudd? are you familiar with exterior lacquers? I got like 4 doors out of the gallon back in my residential repaint days. It was great to use vs Spar urethane but have never found it again.

Yes I have seen all sorts of failure with rudd and sculpt nouveau exterior lacquers. Only one that I like is permalac. All exterior wood surfaces get sealed with Daly's benite or shipnshore prior to coating with spar urethanes. They last forever with that stuff. Even have some metal shops using daly's shipnshore instead of sculpt nouveau on steel.


The lenmar lacquers are 'self sealing' but you are correct the sealer coat is designed to sand to a powder so its best to use them anyway even though its not required.

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Coco, whats the big difference between the Duralaq and the Megavar?
I too would like to experiment with these products..

Big difference is megavar has high amount of urethane, produces a much harder chemical and abrasion resistant surface. The WB duralaq are 100 acrylic. About as durable as any other nitrocellulose lacquer but can be crosslinked with aziridine. Also half the price.
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