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Old 02-12-2015, 10:15 PM   #1
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Default Level 5 drywall primer?

What is your goto primer?
Has anybody ever used USG Tuff Hide?
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Gardz. Especially over a level 5 because it really soaks in the skim coat.
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I have used TuffHide. Used it on custom homes where the drywaller did not do a good job to say the least. Its not maid to prime a lvl 5 ceiling as much as its made to take a lvl 4 to a lvl 5. If your trying to just prime a lvl 5 drywall its not needed at all.
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I have used TuffHide. Used it on custom homes where the drywaller did not do a good job to say the least. Its not maid to prime a lvl 5 ceiling as much as its made to take a lvl 4 to a lvl 5. If

So how good does it work? Will it hide minor dings? How much point up do you have to do first to get lvl 5? Seriously considered trying this product lately, lotta lotta hours being burned up skimming.
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Gardz. Especially over a level 5 because it really soaks in the skim coat.
Gardz is good stuff but its too thin. It would only highlight the flaws. I need a problem solver.
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I have used TuffHide. Used it on custom homes where the drywaller did not do a good job to say the least. Its not maid to prime a lvl 5 ceiling as much as its made to take a lvl 4 to a lvl 5. If your trying to just prime a lvl 5 drywall its not needed at all.
Yep. Thats what I need to do.
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It looks like you really need specific spray equipment that can atomize this material through a .031 tip, at 2000 psi. Definitely a production material that cuts out a step in the level five process of drywall finishing.

A product like this might bring back smooth walls to an otherwise textured California.
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Ya, wondering if my 1095 can hack it.
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Ya, wondering if my 1095 can hack it.
According to the Tuffhide TDS, your 1095 is one of the recommended pieces of equipment rated to pump the primer/surfacer.
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Ya, wondering if my 1095 can hack it.
It should do this type of work all day.
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Gardz is good stuff but its too thin. It would only highlight the flaws. I need a problem solver.
Gotcha. When you said it was a lvl 5, I assumed it was already a lvl 5 and didn't realize it was lacking in some way.
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Yeah, the drywaller keeps calling it a 'poor mans' level 5.

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Does that mean its level 3?
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What a pain making a product raise a 4 to a level 5. Maybe by dumping a ton of Tuffhide and sanding.
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At the risk of stating the obvious, Tuff Hide and other high-build primer surfacers will only hide the, "innies", not the, "outies". It'll hide dents, dings & scratches, but not so much for visible joints, seams, photographing.
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I believe the question should be do you want to do a level 5 with a 24"
blade or a .031" tip.
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I believe the question should be do you want to do a level 5 with a 24"
blade or a .031" tip.
In terms of applications that have a best practice, it would appear that a level five by trowel or knife, followed by a compatible and appropriate drywall primer, would indeed be the preferred method. However, like all the other production products that help reduce labor time, primer /surfacers like Tuffhide will find their place in an industry that enables time saving methods that appeal not only to budget minded contractors and their customers, but also to the DIY market.
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Actually it looks like my 695 would pump it, though just barely. Its rated at .95 GPM, only .05 short of the recommended 1 GPM and it will support a .031 tip. I'm going to have to give it a try soon
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Actually it looks like my 695 would pump it, though just barely. Its rated at .95 GPM, only .05 short of the recommended 1 GPM and it will support a .031 tip. I'm going to have to give it a try soon
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Lol. I'm no stranger to maxing out my pumps. I've sprayed HS polly with a 395 for Pete's sake.
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