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Old 08-19-2014, 01:33 PM   #1
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At first I thought they looked gimmicky, but I tried one and can't imagine going back to not using them.

First, they are great for organization. Every tray I have gets mated with one of these covers, so a tray, frame and a couple of sleeves gets stored in each one and they get stacked in the truck or the shelf. Time to roll? Grab a bag and your extension pole and you're ready to go.

Second, they are great for moving the tray around the room. They open up to a "mini drop" with a handle. I roll left to right so the tray goes on my left and I pull it around the room as I go. You don't have to worry about any paint that might have dripped down the side of your tray, etc.

Third, and the best part, they are great for storing a full pan of paint and wet roller + frame. The obvious is using them from day to day on a job still in the same color, but what's even better is when you constantly find yourself in the same paint (i.e. ceiling paint). I finished up a job last Monday and had ceilings to roll on another job later in the week. I zipped up the bag with ProMar400 Flat in a Big Ben tray with an 18" roller in it, and actually got to around to painting the ceilings on the next job much later than I expected: Saturday evening. I had never let the paint stay in the tray that long and was a little nervous, but everything in the tray was 100% wet, even the "let off ramp" or whatever you call it. No goobers whatsoever. Totally impressed.

I know most painters use garbage bags to store paint trays for the next day or the way home, but they almost always end up being messy and in the end wasteful. These retail at about $17 which is high so I wait for SW to have a sale on them and usually get them for around $11 or $12.

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Thanks. I just watched the video. I'm gonna have to get a few.

Can you fit a Handy pail tray with no problems?
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Yeah, I don't use trays all the time but when I do the Kords are great. I'm continually surprised at how well they seal and keep your rig wet, even with fast drying paints like Aura.
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Thanks. I just watched the video. I'm gonna have to get a few.

Can you fit a Handy pail tray with no problems?
Not sure which one you mean. It should fit any 9" tray I would think. I have a deeper 9" tray (not sure how makes it) and it fits well. Also fits the Wooster Big Ben 18" shallow trays.

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Yeah, I don't use trays all the time but when I do the Kords are great. I'm continually surprised at how well they seal and keep your rig wet, even with fast drying paints like Aura.
No kidding. I mean 5 days for a rig to stay wet is just ridiculous.
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Not sure which one you mean.
This one here.
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This one here.

Yeah, same ones I use.
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Yeah, same ones I use.
Yeah. And we both shop at H-E-B too.
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Guys that use trays are such wimps.
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Guys that use trays are such wimps.

It feels weird to me to use one, I was trained on a bucket. I gotta admit though, they do load the roller faster/better, and the coolness of the bags seals the deal a lot of times. No more wet rags, or trash off the screen. Just zip it up and don't worry about it.

I doubt if I'll ever convert totally, but definitely been digging the pans and bags lately.
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Sounds way expensive for 1 bag.If ya like a zipper so mush you could always use a suit bag when u buy a new suite.I use garbage bags and press them down tight in the pan to get rid of most of the air.when painting apartments i used to empty all the paint from the 18 in tray and add about 6 oz of water and just bag them.They would still be good to go in 6 months if stored in a cool dry place.

I wonder how many times u can use and wash/scrub ddry paint out of them before u need a new one.Seems like a great idea but IMO it is way over priced.
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I haven't seen the need to scrub dry paint out of them. They seem to be like the spray plastic for multiple coats, the dried paint doesn't flake off like you might think. Some of ours are pretty splattered up inside, and its not a problem so far.

It is kinda like paying twenty bucks for a garbage bag, but there cool. Looks a little spiffier on site too. For some reason they make me feel a little less cheesy for even using a pan
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Sounds way expensive for 1 bag.If ya like a zipper so mush you could always use a suit bag when u buy a new suite.I use garbage bags and press them down tight in the pan to get rid of most of the air.when painting apartments i used to empty all the paint from the 18 in tray and add about 6 oz of water and just bag them.They would still be good to go in 6 months if stored in a cool dry place.

I wonder how many times u can use and wash/scrub ddry paint out of them before u need a new one.Seems like a great idea but IMO it is way over priced.

It's more about it becoming part of a system that works for the type of work you do. It's storage for my rigs when dry or wet. Everything is together right when I need it. Pull it out, dump paint in, use to pull rig around the room, even off the drops. Done for the day? Zip it up and put it in the corner of the room. No time wasted getting a garbage bag out. And the next day instead if dealing with a messy garbage bag and a tray that probably has paint on the bottom of it now, you just unzip and are right back in it. Done with the job and can't get out of the paint on site? Same thing. Zip it up, stack it in the truck and get to it when you can.

The bags are built well and can be had for $12. They last as long as you take care of them.


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The pulling it around the room thing is a big deal for me. One thing I have always hated about pans in the awkward mobility. I want my paint right there all the time, and it takes two hands to pick up a pan and move it.

There are other ways to move a pan easily I'm sure, but sliding them around on those slick bags works pretty good.
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I do not see the benefit of this product for myself.

For those who are adamant in boxing and straining their paints, I do not see this as beneficial, nor consistent with the claims of the benefits of uniformity in finish or adding to productivity. How can you allow your paints to sit "airtight" overnight, without re shaking, but worry about straining and boxing all of your material?

I sweep my trays back into the gallon, and wrap my sleeves in plastic. To each their own, but a uniform approach to every day generates productivity. I prefer not to add to my overhead when I don't need to.




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I do not see the benefit of this product for myself.

For those who are adamant in boxing and straining their paints, I do not see this as beneficial, nor consistent with the claims of the benefits of uniformity in finish or adding to productivity. How can you allow your paints to sit "airtight" overnight, without re shaking, but worry about straining and boxing all of your material?

I sweep my trays back into the gallon, and wrap my sleeves in plastic. To each their own, but a uniform approach to every day generates productivity. I prefer not to add to my overhead when I don't need to.

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Because boxing all your material at the beginning allows you to compartmentalize your paint into different locations, such as in a bucket or a tray, and not have to worry about those being different later on. Stir each individual compartment and they will all be uniform. You only have to box paint once, and hopefully only strain once if your pot discipline is good.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but that doesn't make sense.
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Spraying v rolling, perhaps?


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Because boxing all your material at the beginning allows you to compartmentalize your paint into different locations, such as in a bucket or a tray, and not have to worry about those being different later on. Stir each individual compartment and they will all be uniform. You only have to box paint once, and hopefully only strain once if your pot discipline is good.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but that doesn't make sense.

Make sense of it for me, Jmays.

I am not understanding the benefit of stirring a tray when I can shake a gallon.



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