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Old 12-14-2009, 10:25 PM   #21
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I would like to see Ben in a matte, but like Mac said, the coverage is not nearly as good as other options. It is a very sticky feeling paint to roll out compared to regal or aura.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:18 AM   #22
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NCpaint1, BMDEALER:

no idea what you guys' intensions are with all this new gennex stuff, but we have committed to switching over to all of the newer gennex lines. Already have BEN, AURA int&ext, Eco-Spec WB, Natura, 508, we are also going with the arborcoat, Ben EXT, Switching Eco Spec WB to the WB Silver and going with the Regal Select. We have a major problem here in FL with dealers "giving away" the products, by bringing all of these in with the MSP will either force them to bring in the new lines or bust. Our local BDR "guaranteed" us that the Glycol based architectual tints ARE planned to be phased out within 5 years(we all know the bs of the BDR though). Also Planned for late 2010 is supposed to be the gennex conversion of the N105, N103 & N096. I'd have to say that our sales now are about 50/50 gennex to color preview. But as a dealer I fully agree with the posts of too many "top Heavy" products....

What are you guys planning on?
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:26 AM   #23
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NCpaint1, BMDEALER:

no idea what you guys' intensions are with all this new gennex stuff, but we have committed to switching over to all of the newer gennex lines. Already have BEN, AURA int&ext, Eco-Spec WB, Natura, 508, we are also going with the arborcoat, Ben EXT, Switching Eco Spec WB to the WB Silver and going with the Regal Select. We have a major problem here in FL with dealers "giving away" the products, by bringing all of these in with the MSP will either force them to bring in the new lines or bust. Our local BDR "guaranteed" us that the Glycol based architectual tints ARE planned to be phased out within 5 years(we all know the bs of the BDR though). Also Planned for late 2010 is supposed to be the gennex conversion of the N105, N103 & N096. I'd have to say that our sales now are about 50/50 gennex to color preview. But as a dealer I fully agree with the posts of too many "top Heavy" products....

What are you guys planning on?

As of now I have Aura, BEN, and Natura. I dont see much demand as of yet for the WB Eco Spec, and the price doesn't sway me enough to bring it in as a baby brother to Natura. Both BEN and Aura are Low VOC....if someone wants VOC free ( which I rarely get a demand for ) they'll be offered Natura. At least in my area, personal health safety, and environmental friendliness are second place to people's needs in this economy.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:10 AM   #24
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still to this day it amazes me on product trend around the country... We here, have experienced a LARGE increase in the "green wise" trend. Especially for the Eco Spec WB with all of the hospitals and retirement homes we have down here ( i think its somewhere around 3 for every 5 square miles). Im curious to see where all of this takes us.
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for the homeowner those prices are fine.. but u can't compete against ppg, sherwin-williams, etc. with the waterborne prices for contractors.. contractors already have the assumption that bm is too expensive, if it all goes waterborne we're gonna lose the contractor.. if their competition on bids is buying product cheaper from sw, then their bids will be cheaper.. which in the nyc market means the cheaper guy will get the bid.. lost jobs for "our" contractors means less buying from "our" stores.. or they will just switch to sw for the better pricing
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Well in house we have Aura, Ben, and Natura......we have committed to ArborCoat but nothing else. Also Moore Corporate does not want its dealers, at least up here, replace existing lines with the new products. That being said there is no reason to carry deck and siding stains if ArborCoat is a superior product, N065, N089. Hence Regal select should not replace Regal in stores. We will find out more at our product fair in February.

Matte finish will be available in Regal Select come spring but for now all that will be available is Aura and Regal. As far as sales go demand is trending more towards the genx system. Todays order I just placed contained all ben, Aura, Bath and Spa, Natura with only a couple of cases of Superhide to get me by before the next quantity buy.

Lastly, correct me if I'm wrong, but technology wise there is no one in the industry that has true waterborne colorants. SW, PPG, Muralo all have waterborne products but they all use a glycol base colorants, so truly not a full waterborne product. Very similar to Moore 314 waterborne satin impervo which is tinted using the glycol colorants. Therefore truly not a full waterborne product.
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