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Old 01-12-2019, 10:39 PM   #41
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Lol, I just sold the job today that I'm talking about doing, because I'm not spraying. I'll take roughly 8 days(rolling) instead of 3-4(spraying). But I'm charging 8. Right now it's about employing myself with less risk as I need good refferals, not just the fastest way possible to get my money. Don't worry guys, I'll be spraying soon enough haha
Congrats on landing that job.

What referral sounds better to you?
"Very nice paint job, but it took over a week to complete"
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"Very nice paint job, it only took them a couple of days to finish it"

You also have to look at it as a business owner. 4-5 extra days of labour is 32 - 40 hours extra labour you can use on a different job. Even at $20 per hour that's $640 - $800 your leaving on the table. You can't always spray them due to weather conditions but spray as much as you can, but always price them as you were going to roll the whole thing just in case you have too.
All legitimate reasons to spray and I am fully aware of this. I only transitioned from employee to solo a few months ago. I hope I'll be able to buy a sprayer after the next few jobs as I've been those painters shooting houses in 2 days with another co-worker. I'm really just happy to be my own boss at the moment and enjoying that as well as sales and the business side. I appreciate all the support though from everyone to get my act together 😛
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Old 01-13-2019, 01:43 AM   #42
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...2 gal bucket...1 gal grid...6" Microfiber with closed end...Chinex will take a beating all day long...you'll be able to practically roll the whole thing and cut and roll from the same bucket...
Nice, thanks for the pics it helps to actually see what you are doing. I like this idea for on the ladder, I have seen Idaho painter on YT use this system, but for interior too which seems to bulky for me. A
5gal hanging on a ladder just seems rediculous and the 1gal with grid, whizz and brush is too much and too messy.
...its only a 2 gal and I can move the ladder without even removing it...Most efficient way to Roll Exterior Sidings solo, no sprayer-img_4103-1-_1547358131154.jpgits the cleanest system I know as I can simply drop the grid in the bucket and replace the lid...keep brush in plastic holder and start the next morning with no hassle...Most efficient way to Roll Exterior Sidings solo, no sprayer-20181028_172836_1547358174178.jpgClick image for larger version

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...handy pail inside 2 gal on a ladder hook all day long...Attachment 103477
So why wouldnt you just cut out of the Duece, and skip the handy pail??
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...I do if I'm rolling also or doing enough to justify...the original post was in response to having the cut bucket and both hands free...much safer at heights this way and no spill worries...
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i am wondering what the most efficient way is to paint exterior houses solo and without a sprayer. I have: Whizzed rolled houses before horizontally but see this as slow due to multiple reasons.rolled vertically with a 9inch but sometimes have to cut in siding and can be very messy. I was thinking of trying 18" roller with a large nap size ( not sure how large) but this sounds like drip city to me lol. Most houses are hardiplank or wood siding. Don't mention any spraying or power rolling techniques as i don't have the insurance or a machine for this yet. Thanks
i too don't have a sprayer and found the idea of having to throw out all the plastic to properly tape off a house unconscionable. Also waiting for the perfect day with no wind. So i rolled 2 houses last summer with a 5 gallon bucket and a pelican strapped to it's side. It worked ok. I did 3 courses at a wack and back brushed after rolling. My reveals on both was 13". What i could not stop was the dripping. [img class=inlineimg]https://www.painttalk.com/images/smilies/vs_mad.gif[/img] i'd like to find a better container to roll. The 5 gallon bucket with a grid in it was messy and cumbersome on a ladder. Looking for a better bucket.
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Back in the day, we used to make hook things out of bucket handle wire, and hang gallon cut pots right off of our belts. It worked well, it just made a mess on your pants.

PS, that picture angle makes it look like a 5'er.
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Back in the day, we used to make hook things out of bucket handle wire, and hang gallon cut pots right off of our belts. It worked well, it just made a mess on your pants.

PS, that picture angle makes it look like a 5'er.
I still do that. Except for hanging it off my belt. I like it much more than those stupid hooks.

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Size:  13.2 KBI like this bucket for hand painting siding off of an extension ladder. I remove the handle and replace with a short bungee with the wire hooks. I can strap it to the ladder and move the ladder with the bucket attached. I tape a piece of wire to the rim to hook my brush, and use a 4" mini with a nap that will hold paint and a 4" brush. The bucket is deeper than a round 2g and hugs the ladder better.
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I am wondering what the most efficient way is to paint exterior houses solo and without a sprayer. I have: whizzed rolled houses before horizontally but see this as slow due to multiple reasons.Rolled vertically with a 9inch but sometimes have to cut in siding and can be very messy. I was thinking of trying 18" roller with a large nap size ( not sure how large) but this sounds like drip City to me lol. Most houses are hardiplank or wood siding. Don't mention any spraying or power rolling techniques as I don't have the insurance or a machine for this yet. Thanks
If no sprayer, then you must cut in house and try and roll the paint on vertically with a 9in roller. You'll have to jam it underneath the lips on the siding to make sure it gets a thick coat of paint.

I've actually had pretty good success rolling hardy board in this manner. Believe it or not, I don't think I'm that much slower with a roller on a typical story and a half home. The reason for that is because I don't have to move the ladder around when rolling from the ground. I don't have a spray extension long enough, so I'm climbing extension ladders when I choose to spray.
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My forearm and shoulder are hurting just thinking about brush and rolling an exterior....when I do an exterior I run about 6-800 psi with a 2-19 tip with my airlesco 540 recranked to a 690. Airlessco has a very narrow power band so u don't get the pulsating affect.. very low to no overspray and a 3.5-4 inch brush to work it. I always back brush at least one coat to get the siding under edges. Basically the sprayer becomes your endless bucket
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Don't have the resources? Rent, doing it old school you will never get there. As stated above, lack of experience to properly spray without flashing is 1 concern, but assuming proficiency then buy, borrow or rent the right tools before starting a job. You will definitely come out ahead and be on your way to a great finish. And have a happy customer.

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My forearm and shoulder are hurting just thinking about brush and rolling an exterior....when I do an exterior I run about 6-800 psi with a 2-19 tip with my airlesco 540 recranked to a 690. Airlessco has a very narrow power band so u don't get the pulsating affect.. very low to no overspray and a 3.5-4 inch brush to work it. I always back brush at least one coat to get the siding under edges. Basically the sprayer becomes your endless bucket
Exactly. Just gotta know which tool to use and how to use ALL of it in different situations. It doesn't always need to run a huge tip at full pressure...its supposed to make our jobs easier, not harder.

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Ignore all these spray mavens, and do like Pee-Wee & Lloyd, two good old boys from down South did when they decided to spray aluminum paint on the mechanicals (ductwork) on the roof of the Tootsie Roll factory on the SW side of Chicago in a 50 MPH wind and ended up over spraying 450 cars in adjacent parking lots. Go for it!!!
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Ignore all these spray mavens, and do like Pee-Wee & Lloyd, two good old boys from down South did when they decided to spray aluminum paint on the mechanicals (ductwork) on the roof of the Tootsie Roll factory on the SW side of Chicago in a 50 MPH wind and ended up over spraying 450 cars in adjacent parking lots. Go for it!!!
I worked with a guy who did 200 cars down south spaying chrome aluminum! He was a Richard though.
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Back in the day, we used to make hook things out of bucket handle wire, and hang gallon cut pots right off of our belts. It worked well, it just made a mess on your pants.

PS, that picture angle makes it look like a 5'er.
I like electrical wire because it's almost always available on a floor near you on commercial jobs.

That does look like a 5! I've hung those off a ladder. Tried the hanging from the belt trick once too but, didn't like it bouncing when I walked. I had thought I invented it but someone told me SW or someone had sold such a set up before me.
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I am wondering what the most efficient way is to paint exterior houses solo and without a sprayer. I have: whizzed rolled houses before horizontally but see this as slow due to multiple reasons.Rolled vertically with a 9inch but sometimes have to cut in siding and can be very messy. I was thinking of trying 18" roller with a large nap size ( not sure how large) but this sounds like drip City to me lol. Most houses are hardiplank or wood siding. Don't mention any spraying or power rolling techniques as I don't have the insurance or a machine for this yet. Thanks
We paint dozens of houses every year using only this method.

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My last sighting job had some pretty big Peaks and I was fixing a lot a lot marks from a previous painter so there was already a base coat on the siding. For the biggerr Peaks I either set up a platform on ladder Jack's, or set up a few extension ladders that I could step to and from. I would actually work from bottom to up so that any overages on the lap siding above the piece I was working on would be worked out.

In the end the siding was free from lap marks, but I did have a problem with leaching. A quick sponge bath fixed that.

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