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Old 11-18-2019, 07:00 PM   #41
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Thais really is painting 101 question or something my 10 year old kid would ask...
If you client is complaining for something like that maybe you need a reconsider getting out of painting.
This is a huge problem in the US, that there is no oversight with contractors and anyone can claim or profess that they are a trade person. There are no guilds in the US like over in Europe that holds contractors accountable where they have to constantly take refresher coarse to prove there skill set. I guess that's why painters here in the US are basically bottom of the barrel and have a stigma of being drug addicts and alcoholics. In Europe painters on the Soci-economic scale are in the same category as a Dentist or Accountant.
And it is truly sad when a business or self-proclaimed painter post an idiotic question like this.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:10 PM   #42
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This talk about outlet and switch covers reminds me of another per peeve; houses where there is a mix of covers that have short screws and long ones (leave the jokes alone). Just make Em’ with one size already!

That and the little screws that some towel bars have - not a big deal until you come up against one where the last person to set them broke one half of the screw head away. Grrrrr.....

Anyone remember the thread we had awhile back where the discussion was about setting outlet/switch plate screws either horizontally or vertically, or did they even care? Well, care they did and it was surprising how strongly some felt about it. Me, I prefer a vertical set myself.
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Thais really is painting 101 question or something my 10 year old kid would ask...
If you client is complaining for something like that maybe you need a reconsider getting out of painting.
This is a huge problem in the US, that there is no oversight with contractors and anyone can claim or profess that they are a trade person. There are no guilds in the US like over in Europe that holds contractors accountable where they have to constantly take refresher coarse to prove there skill set. I guess that's why painters here in the US are basically bottom of the barrel and have a stigma of being drug addicts and alcoholics. In Europe painters on the Soci-economic scale are in the same category as a Dentist or Accountant.
And it is truly sad when a business or self-proclaimed painter post an idiotic question like this.
I agree!!! We need more oversight! Form a committee...then a sub committee to monitor the committee. Better have a board of directors to dictate to the committee. And a board of regents to guide the directors. And a COO to keep an eye on the regents. Make them all accountable to the Grand Puba.

Maybe then we can determine who is allowed to post a question on PT.
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This talk about outlet and switch covers reminds me of another per peeve; houses where there is a mix of covers that have short screws and long ones (leave the jokes alone). Just make Em’ with one size already!

That and the little screws that some towel bars have - not a big deal until you come up against one where the last person to set them broke one half of the screw head away. Grrrrr.....
First paragraph: Dang it, taking all the fun out of everything.

Second paragraph: I thought that's how they came from the factory. Every towel bar I've ever seen has had the half headed screw. I thought they required a special tool to remove.


Sure wish I knew how that multiple answer thing worked. It would look much better doing it that way than my amateurish first/second paragraph thing.

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Thais really is painting 101 question or something my 10 year old kid would ask...
If you client is complaining for something like that maybe you need a reconsider getting out of painting.
This is a huge problem in the US, that there is no oversight with contractors and anyone can claim or profess that they are a trade person. There are no guilds in the US like over in Europe that holds contractors accountable where they have to constantly take refresher coarse to prove there skill set. I guess that's why painters here in the US are basically bottom of the barrel and have a stigma of being drug addicts and alcoholics. In Europe painters on the Soci-economic scale are in the same category as a Dentist or Accountant.
And it is truly sad when a business or self-proclaimed painter post an idiotic question like this.
I think it's the pioneer spirit we have here in the US that drives us. Whether we know what we're doing or not. And maybe it's just me, but I'm not so sure I'd trust a dentist that is in the same socio-economic scale as a painter.
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And maybe it's just me, but I'm not so sure I'd trust a dentist that is in the same socio-economic scale as a painter.
Or an accountant !
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I agree!!! We need more oversight! Form a committee...then a sub committee to monitor the committee. Better have a board of directors to dictate to the committee. And a board of regents to guide the directors. And a COO to keep an eye on the regents. Make them all accountable to the Grand Puba.

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Thais really is painting 101 question or something my 10 year old kid would ask...
If you client is complaining for something like that maybe you need a reconsider getting out of painting.
This is a huge problem in the US, that there is no oversight with contractors and anyone can claim or profess that they are a trade person. There are no guilds in the US like over in Europe that holds contractors accountable where they have to constantly take refresher coarse to prove there skill set. I guess that's why painters here in the US are basically bottom of the barrel and have a stigma of being drug addicts and alcoholics. In Europe painters on the Soci-economic scale are in the same category as a Dentist or Accountant.
And it is truly sad when a business or self-proclaimed painter post an idiotic question like this.
Please cool the righteous indignation.

Though all PT members are expected to be professionals, there are all levels here within that designation - from seasoned grizzled pros to guys just starting out. Someone asking a question that may seem way below basic to many of us may be asking something that is exactly what a few others have been wondering about as well.

As a mod, I would prefer that if someone feels a question is silly, that they just move on rather than take the time to post a slam of the posted question and it’s author. But, I have been doing this far too long to expect that to actually happen.
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Like others have said I tape over and roll right up to them.
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I always carried a full stock of replacement plates in both white and buff. They are cheap in bulk and I'd sometimes change them just because the originals were showing their age from cracks, scaring or discoloration. Nice clean plates make the whole job look sharper.
I pick up the old timey molded plates at thrift stores and try to match them if I'm painting in an older house.
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I pick up the old timey molded plates at thrift stores and try to match them if I'm painting in an older house.
Wow, that's got to be a limited resource. I strip old hardware and clean up molded plates a far as possible but I don't replace antiquated plates. I'd never be able to find enough of them.
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It's always a challenge when you have to replace one of those plates that have the vertical raised ribs running down the middle third of the plate!
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