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Old 11-23-2017, 03:28 AM   #1
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Hi all,

I am new to the site, and have done some scanning through various posts. Looks to be a lot of great, active members in here with knowledge of the industry.

I wanted to post to see if there was anyone on here I could connect with via private message or to reach out to directly to pick their brain on a couple topics in the commercial/industrial painting market? I understand geographic limitations and competition come into play here, but seeing as how many individuals here seem to be outside of the MI market I am in, I figured that may not be a problem.

I'll say a little about myself and my organization. I have experience in residential painting, both new build and repaint (about 9 years of experience overall). I left the industry to go into a sales role. My time there was successful, but I was feeling the itch for something new and was approached by a successful, specialty contracting business owner that though starting a painting company to complement his product line was going to be beneficial to him and to potentially, me.

Long story short, after about 9 months of planning and securing investors, I have started my business and my career back in the painting industry. I am currently busy filling my schedule with residential jobs from word of mouth, and creating relationships with my local Commercial GC's.

Any suggestions or things to avoid in this new venture would be appreciated. I have two great partners who will not be painting (one is a CPA and one a Director of Sales in the local commercial construction game), but I am the one with the painting experience. I consider myself quick learner, but also realize I have little experience in the commercial area. I am taking a lot of information on quickly, to say the least (hence my insonmia related 3:30am post)!

My apologies for the lengthy post! I figured I'd introduce myself if I'm going to get involved in this forum, and hoped that there may be some out there willing to give a hand to a guy humbly asking for it!

Josh
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Old 11-23-2017, 09:46 AM   #2
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Welcome!

It appears you have a pretty sophisticated operation. There are a couple of active members here that may be able to offer you some advice, but most active members are owner operators with less than three helpers, that seem to operate at a reduced management structure in comparison to your organization.

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Considering you have no real experience in the Commercial market, you may want to hire an experienced estimator/salesperson who has worked in your area for a good amount of time. Someone like this will bring his knowledge and contacts with him, which will be extremely important for a new business. They will most likely have a line on who the best painters and foremen are in your market.

Welcome and good luck.
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@CApainter, thank you for the input. all of my experience in the past has been in the owner operator capacity. It still is, with the goal that in a couple of years, I can take more of a leadership role and grow the business from behind a desk. I love painting, and will still most likely take on the passion projects at that time, if possible.
@Brushman4, I am definately going to go that route. I have the advantage of one of my partners serving the same clientele as we are targeting for the last 20 years, so all introductions are warm. I am learning about the estimating very quickly. It's different that the residential estimating I'm so used to. That being said, I have come in on the lower-to-middle end of bids so far, and finding it's not working. I am now trying to figure out how I can be just slightly the lower. That will be my initial approach.

It's a tough market here in West Michigan to hire in, but my past 4 years have been in the staffing industry, so I'm hoping that helps with findint he best individual.

Thank you both for the input. I very much appreciate it!
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Ya, bidding commercial is a whole other world, especially if you're bidding off of prints. Miss one thing and it will put a big hurt on the bottom line.
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