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Old 11-12-2013, 05:25 AM   #21
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Just wanted to throw out there that if your rig is tailing with a .015 then you may want to address that before using a larger orifice.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:22 AM   #22
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You should try posting a picture... Maybe we can help better..
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:43 AM   #23
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Nothing to see here, just another bear attack. My advice: give BM ultra flat ceiling paint a try next time. Yes, it costs nearly $30/gal (contractor pricing), but it's easily worth every penny +. Especially when you can save yourself from these types of painting horror stories.
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:43 PM   #24
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Prime plus 3 topcoats tells me I might want to change paints.
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when we spray ceilings, I always have a worker following behind me with a long nap roller and back roll. This enables us to touch up with a small roller at a later date if required.
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To match a sprayed ceiling with a roller it seems to me would be almost impossible. A VERY small nap micro fiber may come close.
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On smooth drywall ceilings I have found that flat paints begin to flash on 2nd finish coat. Now I spray and back roll tinted prime coat. Let dry. fill and sand. spray a 2nd coat primer. Let dry and sand. Then spray and back roll 1 finish coat. This will allow for spot touch ups with roller after electricians get there paws on it installing fixtures.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:10 PM   #28
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Jp- I feel your pain. Been there plenty, seeing as how I used mostly Home Depot paint for quite a while (in the process of exploring other options).

In my experience, HD paint doesn't touch up well. Especially when it comes to ceilings. Flash city. Best thing I've found, drop 48" plastic or longer if you prefer down the wall hanging by some blue or lower adhesive tape, cover your floors, thin down your material and fog it back in a few feet. Voila! Won't be seen.

Unless like as previously stated you had back rolled, then you have a better chance.

Side note, anyone ever successfully sprayed and back-rolled alone?
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Why are there so many problem posts with ceilings?

Sorry, if you used bear I am no help.
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not sure what steps you did first but painting the walls first then mask the walls off with 48" film for moderate sized room and up to 99" film for a room the sized room you have done is the most efficient way to go as it would have cut out the cutting in all together of walls all together.

Doing it this way it does not matter if if you get wall paint on the ceiling cause when you mask the wall off when you spray the ceiling you will end up with as sharp of lines that you mask.
I will caulk the corners sometimes before I paint and that pretty much leaves little or no touch up and after you spray the ceiling with a sheen wait to pull the masking until the paint has dried long enough so not to get paint on the walls and flat can dry overnight.
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2. The color is off between what first did to when you touched up.
This would be my first guess. Did you box all your paint together before you started spraying? Could simply be a mistint.
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Not sure if I am reading this right or not but its a ceiling. If you put a primer and three topcoats on it then it comes down to sheen, colorant, and/or technique.
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Why are there so many problem posts with ceilings?

Sorry, if you used bear I am no help.
Just a hunch, but I think that it's because people don't put the paint on thick enough on the ceiling. If you think about it, it is not as easy to put the paint on the ceiling.

It isn't all that difficult, but it isn't as easy as the walls either...so not being as easy, maybe the chance of error increases. <shrugs>

Just a thought.
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Why the heck the need for such major TU? The OP mentioned some cut lines got on the ceilings. A small brush recut, should not show up, unless the cut and roll guy really hacked it up and hit the ceiling a few times with roller.
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:13 PM   #35
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Here's the lowdown...any suggestions would be appreciated. I am painting a fellowship hall about 5,600 sq. ft. the ceiling is a basic grade ceiling paint white from Home Depot. Walls another color also Home Depot paint. To date I have never had a problem with their paint.

I sprayed the ceiling and rolled the walls...had some help on the cut in portion some wall paint on ceiling. When I touched up the ceiling, there was a noticeable difference in color matching (same paint I sprayed), I then did a light feather roll - somewhat better but still obvious. I called the paint manufacturer and Home Depot both told me that whenever you cut in the ceiling paint, you must re-spray that section. Has anyone else ever had this problem? I have sprayed and cut in for years and never seen anything like this. Any suggestions are appreciated.
Is it a color difference or a sheen difference? Either you didn't box your ceiling paint or by using a different applicator on the touch up you've now 'filled in' the texture which will naturally look different than the open areas you sprayed. Good luck, I think you're gonna need it.

On a side note, I'd definitely increase the tip size when doing ceilings if you're pump can handle it.
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Sounds like job for the behr-footin guys Oops
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