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Old 04-16-2016, 11:26 AM   #21
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I'm surprised they didn't want BIN. That's the typical for fire restoration here. But after that much CS I doubt they'll ever smell anything else.
I use both. Coverstain was spec'd because the smoke smell wasn't in your face
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Old 04-16-2016, 12:19 PM   #22
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Cost a fortune here in Canada for Bin....over 60 + and 14% taxes on top of it ....a gallon...and that is a small gallon . Many restoration companies have moved onto the oil primers since they are cheaper . We do quite a bit of painting for a couple of them but are fortunate enough that they do the early smoke killing/ spraying before we arrive on the scene .
That's $46.81 US dollars. We are at around $42 a gallon in the box stores. Sales tax varies but is usually between 6-8.5%. So you are paying a pretty good premium for it.
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Don't listen to RH,that's a nice head of hair there. Enough to grab.lol
Nice work, I would be brain dead after that,no wine necessary.
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Have to say JP, I'm impressed that you put yourself through the unpleasantness of doing that project. I know a job is a job and hopefully one like that paid you extra well. Just know that it's not something I would take on anymore. In fact, not sure if I ever would have.
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That's $46.81 US dollars. We are at around $42 a gallon in the box stores. Sales tax varies but is usually between 6-8.5%. So you are paying a pretty good premium for it.
Tax in BC is 13% +environmental fees
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Have to say JP, I'm impressed that you put yourself through the unpleasantness of doing that project. I know a job is a job and hopefully one like that paid you extra well. Just know that it's not something I would take on anymore. In fact, not sure if I ever would have.
That's what I love about restoration work. It's different every day.
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Sure - go ahead and PM me with your concern.
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Have to say JP, I'm impressed that you put yourself through the unpleasantness of doing that project. I know a job is a job and hopefully one like that paid you extra well. Just know that it's not something I would take on anymore. In fact, not sure if I ever would have.
Jobs are definitely like little missions. Either you accept them with full commitment, or you don't. There's not a whole lot in painting that I wouldn't consider accepting, as long as there is a plan. Often times, the mission is scrapped because a good plan couldn't be developed.

As far as the task JP accepted, I would have also done it provided my plan included all the proper PPE, good ventilation, (provided I wasn't going to exceed the PEL limits of an APR); a time frame where I wouldn't be interrupted, a well calculated material and labor time. And, all areas accessible.

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Jobs are definitely like little missions. Either you accept them with full commitment, or you don't. There's not a whole lot in painting that I wouldn't consider accepting, as long as there is a plan. Often times, the mission is scrapped because a good plan couldn't be developed.

As far as the task JP accepted, I would have also done it provided my plan included all the proper PPE, good ventilation, (provided I wasn't going to exceed the PEL limits of an APR); a time frame where I wouldn't be interrupted, a well calculated material and labor time. And, all areas accessible.
granted ^

I'm just not a fan any more of any spray work that would take that long. Hell, I don't think I'll even accept any more popcorn ceiling spray jobs. I'll let someone who is hunger than I am take em'.
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I'm just not a fan any more of any spray work that would take that long. Hell, I don't think I'll even accept any more popcorn ceiling spray jobs. I'll let someone who is hunger than I am take em'.
Granted, part of a plan is knowing one's limitation. I think a lot of us overestimate our abilities.

I've actually come to a point in my life, and working career, where I am experiencing more difficulty completing, or participating in something in a time frame that I thought was doable, without feeling I pushed myself more than I should have. In other words, I've exceeded my limitations more often now than I remember.

And it's not that I couldn't follow through once I made the commitment, but rather not recognizing that what I was doing could not be sustainable from here on out, despite the efforts I have made to keep fit.

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Hope you changed our your respirator pads every 20 gals or sooner.

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Dude! You're spraying oil without a headrag????
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Dude! You're spraying oil without a headrag????
I put a spray sock on but couldn't see out off my perifials. A little bit of Johnson baby head to toe cleaner and some other weird product and it all came out no problem
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To the original problem of tape pulling paint off walls

We used to have this problem on our walls when we'd tape it off to spray the base or door trim on smooth walls specifically

My boss had me prime one room in Coverstain oil,one room in KM 550 and another room in KM 971 PVA Primer

The oil primed wall had no paint pull off with the tape,taped using 3M 2020,on a smooth walls

Lately I've been using Frog Tape over painted walls with almost as much success,without the oil prime

Also,I dont know about different parts of the country but around here I can't get the Coverstain Oil Primer in anything but quart cans

I used 15 gallons or so to primer a badly stained old wood wall in a wharehouse,all in quarts,unfreakingbelievable.

KM gave me a pretty good deal on it though,and it's gotta be the Oil,Coverstain makes new primers that are water based or Hybrids,dont seal in Tannins
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