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Old 02-25-2008, 09:16 PM   #1
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Any of you guys done an entire house in oil .....latex flat ceilings 3500 sq/ft oil trim, doors and all walls over new plaster ...... the walls have me stirring ....should I roll and back brush the whole dam thing? A lot to cathedral ceilings....sucky job. I'm planning on doing all my prep and spray work during normal scheduling for new const.... prime, ceilings, staircase, trim and doors and wait for all the trades to finish..(too avoid a ridiculous punch that I would even want to charge to do)..cover the crap out of the joint and start cutting - rolling - and backbrushing 2 coats....and Ideas for making the walls easier????? If there could be one........ I am assuming that the entire house is going to faux finished.... 15 different base colors...

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There is simply no reason for oil walls these days
Client must have more money than sense

Oh well, that a good target customer right?
Not any good way to make it easier, no
Just be sure to price it right
Don't forget the hazmat disposal hosing...I mean fees
Don't forget the respirator canisters and all
Don't forget the extra PITA charges
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There is simply no reason for oil walls these days
Client must have more money than sense

Oh well, that a good target customer right?
Not any good way to make it easier, no
Just be sure to price it right
Don't forget the hazmat disposal hosing...I mean fees
Don't forget the respirator canisters and all
Don't forget the extra PITA charges
I know...Ive been trying to reason with the designer ...keep tackin on the bucks I guess?
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Lol...
Basically, yeah
I mean, not trying to hose them or anything, but it adds lots of time and money to use that much of it
You know that stuff (oil paint) is nearly 50 bucks a gallon too
It's hard enough to get rid of trim leftover oil paint....now the thinner and dregs from all the walls?
Bleah


And I love working with oils
...for trim and doors...and cabinets maybe

Walls...uhhhh...no
lol
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...Ive been trying to reason with the designer ...
Boy the latex faux stuff is great these days too...
Too bad they are stuck on oil
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designer is out of touch. We do a lot of decorative paint, residential and commercial and with the products out today there is no reason for oil on walls.
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Any of you guys done an entire house in oil .....?
never...
prime, yes
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designer is out of touch....with the products out today there is no reason for oil on walls.
Yeah...I just don't get it
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Yeah...I just don't get it

I know ....not sure the designer has a clue....Gave me all C2 colors.... I dont think C2 makes a oil ?????? I think I have some Ammo for tomorows fight!!!!!
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Lol...I'm pretty sure they don't

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Yeah...someone needs their head examined here !!

NO VALID reason for Oils anymore. Try Cabinet-Coat by Insl-X for trim, or ACE's Cabinet, Door, & Trim paint.

We're a C2 store.
They do make an Alkyd Satin/Semigloss sheen, but we hardly ever sell any!
ACE has discontinued hundreds of SKU's of Oil paints over the last 2 years.
* You could also point out that Oils yellow over time...no way around it.
* Also...the VOC'S of many oils now are still pretty bad.

Are you supposed to color-match the C2 colors?!
Good luck if so! C2's colorants are different than 99% of other lines.
* 4 of the 16 are High-strength versions.
* Another 4 aren't found in other brands.
* About 1/3 of C2's colors have 6 colorants in them.

Good Luck my friend!

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Oil on walls?
I don't envy you at all brother.
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I hate working w/ designers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have only had this ridiculous request from interior designers. A big part of our battle when dealing with non paint but paint related industry professionals is breaking through the snob factor of oil products.

Its so easy to point out that these days all of the r&d funds are going into waterborned technologies and that is where all of the best advances are happening. Play the environmental card. Its a powerful one. Holy crap, I would not want to release that much oil into the air inside a house.



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I agree with Vermont Painter. Make them aware of the R&D going to mostly latex products. Having been in paint retail, there is much written out there about the advantages. Make her/him seem like they gonna be the hero to get the change order because in the end the customer will be much more satisfied.
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........All is good here in Boston!..... C2 Latex Eggshell boys.... Oil trim...but I am used to that ....whew! Thanks for the support!
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........All is good here in Boston!..... C2 Latex Eggshell boys.... Oil trim...but I am used to that ....whew! Thanks for the support!

Nicely done! You just added about five years to your life!



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