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Old 01-22-2015, 10:35 PM   #1
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I am curious to what %of work you guys do that is a full heat gun stripped, skim coated and or primed followed by two coats vs. pressurewash quick 5 and 1 scrape and a good coat of paint?
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I am curious to what %of work you guys do that is a full heat gun stripped, skim coated and or primed followed by two coats vs. pressurewash quick 5 and 1 scrape and a good coat of paint?
For us, that has flipped from about 90/10 to 1/99. With the aversge age of the crew approaching 66, scraping takes a big toll.
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Are you talking interior or exterior?

Our work is usually either nice simple repaints or full blown strip jobs. I'd say last year was about 50/50. Since we started up 90/10.

We don't use heat guns for any thing, I have a half dozen still sitting in the boxes.
Power tools is what we use inside or out.
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I am curious to what %of work you guys do that is a full heat gun stripped, skim coated and or primed followed by two coats vs. pressurewash quick 5 and 1 scrape and a good coat of paint?
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Are you talking interior or exterior?
Our work is usually either nice simple repaints or full blown strip jobs. I'd say last year was about 50/50. Since we started up 90/10.
We don't use heat guns for any thing, I have a half dozen still sitting in the boxes.
Power tools is what we use inside or out.
Been awhile since I've had to pressure wash an interior job. Thank goodness for having a better class of customers these days which has pretty much gotten us away from needing to do that anymore.

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So you use power sanders and such? I am talking exterior. Cause I have only really done the simple jobs, sometimes using primers sometimes one or two coats. There are only a few full restores around here.
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Been awhile since I've had to pressure wash an interior job. Thank goodness for having a better class of customers these days which has pretty much gotten us away from needing to do that anymore.




Yes, unless there's an overwhelming amount of poo on the walls. Hey, if PWG can PW an interior, so can I.
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So you use power sanders and such? I am talking exterior. Cause I have only really done the simple jobs, sometimes using primers sometimes one or two coats. There are only a few full restores around here.
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Been awhile since I've had to pressure wash an interior job. Thank goodness for having a better class of customers these days which has pretty much gotten us away from needing to do that anymore.

The skim coating part threw me for a loop. Or it was because I was dead tired last night when I read this and couldn't think straight.

Recently with some of the calls from hoarders we have been getting a good PW inside would help.
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I have searched and read hundreds of threads spending hours every night learning I have never found a more valuable resource. I have only learned trial and error on everything including pricing😬, but heading into summer with 5 employees. Just was talking to an old painter who fell off a ladder and broke his back... Then while in the hospital found out he had cancer.. He said restoration jobs were his favorite so was just checking.
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I have actually seen someone use a power washer inside on drywall. serious hack. You should have seen the mess he made. Bought the power washer at Home depot so obviously there was no one to tell him not to. He called me to ask how to fix it.
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I have actually seen someone use a power washer inside on drywall. serious hack. You should have seen the mess he made. Bought the power washer at Home depot so obviously there was no one to tell him not to. He called me to ask how to fix it.
That's absolutely insane. I've never ever heard of anyone even considering bringing a pressure washer into a building much less using it on drywall. Wouldn't the minor issue of electricity being present create a bit of an issue? Flooring?
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That's absolutely insane. I've never ever heard of anyone even considering bringing a pressure washer into a building much less using it on drywall. Wouldn't the minor issue of electricity being present create a bit of an issue? Flooring?
We've used one in NC. It was a hybrid-framed house, timber framed with stick-built infill. It was already for GWB, insukation in, electrical roughed in, etc. the client realized that the timbers were weathered and needed to be bleached. They was 4-mil poly over the Fiberglas insukation, so we went at the frame with Oxalic Acid wood bleach followed by careful PW. Periodically, we'd open the doors and squeegee out the standing water. At the end, we sucked up all the water we could with shop vacs, turned on the heat (10 degrees outside), cracked some windows, and let it dry out for a week or so.

It was a classic case of p.poor planning. One guy could have done the timbers loose in an hour or so before the frame went up.
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We've used one in NC. It was a hybrid-framed house, timber framed with stick-built infill. It was already for GWB, insukation in, electrical roughed in, etc. the client realized that the timbers were weathered and needed to be bleached. They was 4-mil poly over the Fiberglas insukation, so we went at the frame with Oxalic Acid wood bleach followed by careful PW. Periodically, we'd open the doors and squeegee out the standing water. At the end, we sucked up all the water we could with shop vacs, turned on the heat (10 degrees outside), cracked some windows, and let it dry out for a week or so.

It was a classic case of p.poor planning. One guy could have done the timbers loose in an hour or so before the frame went up.
I have to wonder if that would have been a good situation for a few industrial dehumidifiers.
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Been awhile since I've had to pressure wash an interior job. Thank goodness for having a better class of customers these days which has pretty much gotten us away from needing to do that anymore.

You joke RH, but I kid you not we were on site one day and they pressure washed a basement. Water came up through a few air returns that weren't connected to anything. It was unreal.
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That's absolutely insane. I've never ever heard of anyone even considering bringing a pressure washer into a building much less using it on drywall. Wouldn't the minor issue of electricity being present create a bit of an issue? Flooring?
This was on an apartment building that was bought by a friend of mine at a sheriffs auction. It was nasty as hell. Mold,feces,puke you name it. The guy hired some guy off the street to "clean and paint" them dirt cheap. My buddy went to check on the job, and the guy had powerwashed an entire two bedroom unit, then disappeared. Left the powerwasher behind. When I got called down to look at it to see how to fix it, I checked the tip in on the wand and it was a 0deg. The guy was stripping the paper off the gypsum thinking it was old paint or something. Ended up being an entire re-drywall job. An yes, I told my friend he was a dumbass. Actually if I remember right the electric was off to the whole building at the time.
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Do most of you guys use peel block on almost every job? Do you always do costs? Talking exterior.
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Been awhile since I've had to pressure wash an interior job. Thank goodness for having a better class of customers these days which has pretty much gotten us away from needing to do that anymore.

We are going to look at an interior to power wash. It's a small building. no finished walls just concrete blocks.
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