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Old 10-04-2008, 10:05 PM   #21
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I wouldn't paint anything for $97 bucks--0,nada, nothing.

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Old 10-04-2008, 10:07 PM   #22
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Except, this is a business not a race.
This is what we put in our proposal:

We are in the business of selling hours.
I would rather sell 8 hours to do a room(ten or more if I feel like it)
than sell 8 hours to do 2 rooms.
Easier to find and paint 2,500 rooms a year than 5,000 if the money is exactly the same.
And far fewer headaches all the way around.

To word your point a little differently, I'd rather have 300 customers a year paying my price than have 600 who want to haggle over every nickel.

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Old 10-04-2008, 10:35 PM   #23
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And far fewer headaches all the way around.

To word your point a little differently, I'd rather have 300 customers a year paying my price than have 600 who want to haggle over every nickel.

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Exactly, thanks!
Half the management, half the fires to put out, half everything
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:50 PM   #24
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half the fumes to inhale, half the furniture to move and risk breaking, half the phone calls to manage . . . . .

half of everything, except if you allow yourself twice the time to paint your average room you can probably get at least 150% the quality and you get the same money. Plus it is so much less stress.
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Except, this is a business not a race.
This is what we put in our proposal:

We are in the business of selling hours.
I would rather sell 8 hours to do a room(ten or more if I feel like it)
than sell 8 hours to do 2 rooms.
Easier to find and paint 2,500 rooms a year than 5,000 if the money is exactly the same.
George,

You do T&M jobs?
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You do T&M jobs?
Don,
Almost never, maybe some wallpaper removal.
If I budgeted 8 hours to do a room, 8 hours get paid even if the painters get done faster.
And if they consistently get done faster, I resist the urge to adjust production rates,
that would be like pulling the rug under their feet.
I benefit by the increased production capacity
without hiring more people to cover that new found production increase.
For example, If the job is to finish Friday and gets done on Thursday, they get paid for the Friday anyway.
But that Friday, I have the crew available to be used somewhere else.
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I wouldn't paint anything for $97 bucks--0,nada, nothing.

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I'd do a door for that.

Nothing too ornate, but I'll paint a door for 97.00. Might lead to other business. If nothing else, I walk away with a half a tank of gas.

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I'd do a door for that.

Nothing too ornate, but I'll paint a door for 97.00. Might lead to other business. If nothing else, I walk away with a half a tank of gas.

Good thinking there my friend. In my case, however, I wouldn't paint anything, nada, 0 for $97 bucks. By the time I load up, unload what I need, and so forth, I am losing money.

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Old 10-08-2008, 12:13 AM   #29
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Sounds like money making advertising to me,think about it like this if you do a room for 97 bucks then you might can make a total profit of $15.00 per job times that by 10 and you make $150.00 profit per job and don't even have to see it.Now if you do 2 per day per 2 man crew then your making not only $300.00 per day but in a months time you can generate around 400 refrences for work other than a simple coating of a wall,and no other advertising can beat word of mouth.My multiplying may be a little extreme,but advertising on every corner and with google maybe it's not so far from the truth.Either way think about it for a minute.

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Almost never, maybe some wallpaper removal.
If I budgeted 8 hours to do a room, 8 hours get paid even if the painters get done faster.
And if they consistently get done faster, I resist the urge to adjust production rates,
that would be like pulling the rug under their feet.
I benefit by the increased production capacity
Thank You
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they could be thinking its a way to get their foot in the door

they have established a base price, anything above and beyond costs more

chair rail? upcharge

deep color? upcharge

sheen? upcharge

lid? upcharge

a base price, for a very basic unit, a 10x10 room
Just what i was going to say.Foot in the door and sell sell sell.
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