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Old 12-29-2011, 06:31 PM   #1
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Iím restructuring my rates, want some opinion on painters hours. Hereís my concern. On doing a job that should take less than 8 hours, what do you guys do for the painter. When I was painting for people by the hour, sometimeís I liked getting off early, but it hurt at the end of week. Kind of felt like I was getting screwed for being productive

This is not a problem on multiple room interiors or exterior repaints. The problem is on smaller jobs that donít involve full days. If itís less than a couple hours not big deal, but on a five hour job, three hours ads about $150 bucks and I donít need too lose any work this time of the year.

Iíve been successful in the past trying to add to the scope of work to get it to eight hours, but that doesnít always work.

Just looking for some thoughts
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:45 PM   #2
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I have a minimum charge of a days labour, even for a small job of a few hours. How can you afford to be charging customers for the actual time on the job if the job is small ? I say charge for a full days work. You must remember your overheads .
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Yup, 400 mim, keeps away the tire kickers too.
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Yeah, you've got to have a minimum for those small jobs. Whether it's the same as a full day's worth of work is up to you but you have to consider a short day on one job prevents you from having a full day on another one.
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I also just charge a full day labor rates.
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Send him to another job to finish out the day.
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I don't usually charge the full day rate on the small jobs. Rather than have one of the guys do it, I'll try to do those myself on a Saturday as I don't mind a short day then. I just hate to have the lost production of a job transfer, worse still when I'm paying one of my guys to do it.
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Work 5 get paid for 8. Perhaps make an exception if slipping the job in as a favor and heading off to another afterwards.

Who's paying your wage from 3-5p? Say you pay yourself 65 but cut the day short on a 5 hr job. $195 gone. poof. Best to avoid those jobs unless thats all you have.
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I do most of the small jobs myself. I don't care about the profit. I view it more as public relations. Itís about keeping a good customer happy, or winning over a new one for future work.

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I've never seen much evidence for small jobs leading to larger jobs. Usually previous large job customers will ask for small jobs. That's about the only time I take them on, to keep a past customer happy, already proven track record for payment and ability to keep happy - as well as customer acquisition costs have already been paid off.
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Thanks everyone. Sometimes in the winter I have to take on the small ones, usually from client base. I think the answer is to just do the small ones myself.
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We charge ŗ minimum of 750$ that represent a full day for 2 painters. For me I think it's too expansive in overhead to go under that. Just think of the time to do the quote, go to the paint store, a couple of phone calls, waiting for paint to dry... The 4 hours bathroom just costed you almost a full day.
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