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Old 01-03-2013, 07:34 PM   #41
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I would also add that even if painting was considered as skilled a craft as other trades, people still have a tendency to minimize either the intelligence or masculinity of painters. For example, a plumber on a construction site will generally consider a painter more effeminate and passive then say the carpenter, mason, roofer, or electrician. And you'll never find an electrician that thinks a painter has any intelligence.

I'm afraid this stereotype has trickled down to homeowners too. Just think about it, a homeowner will accept a brutish plumber or roofer, but will reject a painter if he's anything other then a passive and kindly kiss ass, that'll bend at their every whim.

Just an observation. I could be wrong.....maybe
Masculinity? I wish. We got one of the most physical jobs in the trade. Your right though. People picture something that isn't reality. In reality on jobs you will see a lot of older plumbers and electricians but the painting trade in commercial is a young mans game for the most part. Why? Cause it's physical like sports are physical.
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Painters are creative an creative people are intelligent ..... Some of the best conversations I've had have been with other painters...... Remember this all coming from a rather negative guy lol
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Painters are creative an creative people are intelligent .....
The part I love about painting is it combines both the left & right brain. Everyday & every job is different. New solutions constantly have to be realized. Like improvising in jazz. Painting gets you into the moment.
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The part I love about painting is it combines both the left & right brain. Everyday & every job is different. New solutions constantly have to be realized. Like improvising in jazz. Painting gets you into the moment.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to cry...

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Painters are creative an creative people are intelligent ..... Some of the best conversations I've had have been with other painters...... Remember this all coming from a rather negative guy lol
I also believe painters are better people persons then other tradesmen. You'd have to be, to tolerate the scrutiny from self proclaimed paint inspectors that are normally nothing more then glorified DIYers.

Being tolerant is often mistaken for having patience, which most homeowners refer to as an asset that allows a painter the ability to cut in those sharp lines they demand, but never think to associate it with the more important skill of environmental, and psycological navigation.


BTW, I'm a self proclaimed psycologist.
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Hi John, its Rob. Seen a job openings this morning at NewPort News for SSPC C-12 and C-14 Applicators.

MY BAD!!! thats a different industry. Residential, tough nut to crack? Or not...
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We are just the hired help
Serve them, and serve them well.
Don't get a big head about it.
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The part I love about painting is it combines both the left & right brain. Everyday & every job is different. New solutions constantly have to be realized. Like improvising in jazz. Painting gets you into the moment.
I have over 30 years in the painting industry. I still enjoy what I do.
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You can take this trade as high as you want to go.

-some might be happy being a brush and roller painter of income properties.

-others may strive to become master finishers of custom mill-work and cabinets.

-still others look for a niche area such as electrostatic painting, epoxy floor finishes or deck restoration.

-many have their own businesses,(small,medium and large) that employ other painters in new construction,residential re-paints,industrial,commercial. the opportunities are great if you look for them.

this is similar to many professions in that you could start out at the bottom but end up in a high management position. it's up to the single individual to get the experience and education required to further their career goals.
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You can take this trade as high as you want to go.

-some might be happy being a brush and roller painter of income properties.

-others may strive to become master finishers of custom mill-work and cabinets.

-still others look for a niche area such as electrostatic painting, epoxy floor finishes or deck restoration.

-many have their own businesses,(small,medium and large) that employ other painters in new construction,residential re-paints,industrial,commercial. the opportunities are great if you look for them.

this is similar to many professions in that you could start out at the bottom but end up in a high management position. it's up to the single individual to get the experience and education required to further their career goals.
You should be an inspirational speaker representing the paint trade Xmark.
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You can take this trade as high as you want to go.

-some might be happy being a brush and roller painter of income properties.

-others may strive to become master finishers of custom mill-work and cabinets.

-still others look for a niche area such as electrostatic painting, epoxy floor finishes or deck restoration.

-many have their own businesses,(small,medium and large) that employ other painters in new construction,residential re-paints,industrial,commercial. the opportunities are great if you look for them.

this is similar to many professions in that you could start out at the bottom but end up in a high management position. it's up to the single individual to get the experience and education required to further their career goals.
So true, i've painted thousands of rooms at disney, hotel is Puerto Rico, Convention Center Charlotte, casino in new orleans and now at 53 have found happiness in residential repaints for myself ... with a small crew

It's not a easy trade, has it's ups & downs but i still feel good when i am finished and the 2 best parts are when the homeowner is happy and when the check clears
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Anybody else notice the general prejudice/consensus of the general public towards painters is that we are all drunks?

What's up with that?

Like there's no such thing as a drunk carpenter, concrete guy or roofer?
Cause most are, and the ones that aren't are twice the price.lol. Half of America needs a recreational drug every day to function.
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My dad painted for 50 years. He said to me "sure anyone can paint but can they make a living at it." He also said to me" Some will think your worth your weight in gold while others not so much. Raising 5 kids and supporting his stay at home wife, I don't know how he did it. I know he had to swallow a lot of crap and do jobs he didn't want to to make ends meet. We never had a lot of money when I was young but he made sure we had what we needed.
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Cause most are,

I guess this explains it...
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I have been thinking about this for a long time, especially the way some people seem to talk or treat you and what you do, even after all this time some people still seem surprised when you tell them you do this for a living. It seems to me that our profession just keeps being devalued, more so in the residential market but I do know some builders who think painters are on par with common labor.
After 28 years in the industry and 20 years with my own business I have started to find it more taxing to justify my pricing and work, does anyone even know what quality workmanship is or what is costs to run a business? If I was a plumber or electrician people wouldn't blink when I hand them a bill, give them a fair price on something simple as a bedroom and you think I just kicked their dog.
Just a end of the year rant
Goverment also fines it more taxing! Thats another end of the year rant.
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You can take this trade as high as you want to go.

-some might be happy being a brush and roller painter of income properties.

-others may strive to become master finishers of custom mill-work and cabinets.

-still others look for a niche area such as electrostatic painting, epoxy floor finishes or deck restoration.

-many have their own businesses,(small,medium and large) that employ other painters in new construction,residential re-paints,industrial,commercial. the opportunities are great if you look for them.

this is similar to many professions in that you could start out at the bottom but end up in a high management position. it's up to the single individual to get the experience and education required to further their career goals.
I started at the bottom and ended up on the ceiling!
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Y'know- as I was rolling out that one brazillion s'ft ceiling , I says to myself- "things are looking up"!

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