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Old 11-21-2015, 07:16 AM   #41
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That's a good place to try it. I've used it in a dark gray on my deck and two tall book shelves in my office which came out awesome.

Darker colors cover way better in it that white. When brushing I use a Corona Ryan and try to do light thin coats otherwise it will run like crazy on you even with the short open time.

Never tried it on a floor but I don't see why it wouldn't work well.

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Old 11-21-2015, 02:30 PM   #42
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Dean the 6 panel door will need to be done quickly and will probably not flow out as well as say Advance. However give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
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There are at least two different versions of Breakthrough. A low VOC version (less than 50 I think) and the regular version (around 250)
I think most of us are using the 250.
Eff. This is my second time using BT and I noticed it wasn't flowing as well as the first. Found this thread and then noticed the new can says low VOC. Or "EcoLogic" or something like that… <150. The other can said nothing of the sort. So I called PPG up and said hey, can I get me some o' that VOC-rich goodness like before? NOPE. They only have one version…or that's what they're telling me. I made the guy ask the manager to double-check.

If you guys are still getting the "regular" version it might not be for long.
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Eff. This is my second time using BT and I noticed it wasn't flowing as well as the first. Found this thread and then noticed the new can says low VOC. Or "EcoLogic" or something like that… <150. The other can said nothing of the sort. So I called PPG up and said hey, can I get me some o' that VOC-rich goodness like before? NOPE. They only have one version…or that's what they're telling me. I made the guy ask the manager to double-check.

If you guys are still getting the "regular" version it might not be for long.
Very interesting post. I've been waiting 2 weeks for my PPG store to have any BT at all. Never in my 35+ years in this business have I had a major supplier not have a simple white base of one of their best products for 2 weeks. This in the middle of a 60 door cabinet job.

In this same thread I mentioned the thickness of the BT I've been getting, it was as thick as blockfiller. Finally got 2 more gallons today that the PPG store here was able to have shipped from Orlando. Gonna be interesting to pop the top on those in the morning.
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Eff. This is my second time using BT and I noticed it wasn't flowing as well as the first. Found this thread and then noticed the new can says low VOC. Or "EcoLogic" or something like that… <150.
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If you guys are still getting the "regular" version it might not be for long.
804, are you located somewhere like Canada or California, places that are generally ahead of the curve re: environmental regs?
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804, are you located somewhere like Canada or California, places that are generally ahead of the curve re: environmental regs?

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Very interesting post. I've been waiting 2 weeks for my PPG store to have any BT at all. Never in my 35+ years in this business have I had a major supplier not have a simple white base of one of their best products for 2 weeks. This in the middle of a 60 door cabinet job.

In this same thread I mentioned the thickness of the BT I've been getting, it was as thick as blockfiller. Finally got 2 more gallons today that the PPG store here was able to have shipped from Orlando. Gonna be interesting to pop the top on those in the morning.
Orlando????? don't take all my stach i have 3 cabinet jobs when i get back from Clearwater Beach
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Ahh … so your name's the area code … now I see.
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Orlando????? don't take all my stach i have 3 cabinet jobs when i get back from Clearwater Beach
Hell, I figure you're the reason I couldn't get a measly couple of gallons to finish a job.
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Voc laws very from state to state. If they can't get the "old" version it is because they are in a voc restricted area. Even asking them to get it for you is actually a violation of federal law. As if anyone cares.
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This was breakthrough in satin finish. It is a color called mid summers dream by ppg. As a whole this is a very good product. We sprayed it in a very cold garage and it did start sagging immediately. But once we brought it inside to spray the second coat it sprayed out blue beautifully and is very very hard. It is quite difficult to even scratch the surface with the fingernail. We only scuff sanded and laid on two coats.
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Our first attempt with this product. Kitchen cabinets next week
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Thanks Repaint.
Primarily because of reading your input has persuaded us to try it.
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Looks great Zoomer.

How do you guys handle using BT in larger areas that require cutting prior to the main area being brushed or rolled? It sets up SO fast I'm thinking cutting as you go would be a mistake. How badly does it flash (satin) if you let the cut dry first?




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Thanks Repaint.
Primarily because of reading your input has persuaded us to try it.
That you means a lot you giving credit

hey it works for me & i've gotten to the point that that's all i want to do is cabinets & furniture

amazing the difference in price & how a HO treats you doing cabinets

you can price a room for $200 and your "overpriced" by $125.00

you can charge $3,000 to paint cabinets & your thanked & recommended

wow ... how time has changed
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Looks great Zoomer.

How do you guys handle using BT in larger areas that require cutting prior to the main area being brushed or rolled? It sets up SO fast I'm thinking cutting as you go would be a mistake. How badly does it flash (satin) if you let the cut dry first?




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I noticed the satin flashed on the tops of the dresser and nightstands on part of the first coat. We increased the pressure and moved the gun slightly more away from surface. No more flashing.
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I noticed the satin flashed on the tops of the dresser and nightstands on part of the first coat. We increased the pressure and moved the gun slightly more away from surface. No more flashing.
You're talking about spraying…I'm talking where spraying isn't possible. When my order of BT comes in I'll be painting this camper. It's all prepped and ready for paint (well I still need to sand the primer and clean up). See that laminate panel with the metal edging atop and the thermostat in the center? There are a bunch of those to paint and some more complicated stretches with several vents, lights, hinges in the way.

I'm worried that if I cut and then brush or roll out the rest right away, the cut areas will rope up when I go back into them. I'm also worried that the cut areas will flash if I let them dry first before I hit them.

That metal edging is tricky to cut because it's not a uniform distance away from the laminate during it's entire span. In some areas it's tight against, in some areas there's a gap so you need to work your brush just under or it looks like you missed a spot. The point is, you have to work a bit too slowly just to cut a little bit and brush it out, especially with the huge panels like you see on the left.
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You bring up a very good point. Not having brushed it yet I would be concerned as well. I would recommend that you consult with repaint Florida who seems to have this product dialed in quite well
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Your private message does not seem to be coming through. How can I help you with your questions
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Here's the new face of Breakthrough. According to the rep, this will replace ALL versions of BT except the 250g VOC which you can only get in certain areas. It has 51g/VOCs per liter and an added extender to it.

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