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Old 02-11-2016, 09:53 AM   #41
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Pacman, I've never had problems with Coverstain but I'll definitely do some samples next time.
AllPrime is supposedly same thing as Coverstain but different label and lower cost . At least that's what BM tells me.

BIN has been a favorite but double the cost.
Doing a little research I have found that there are at present five different Coverstain products on the market in different areas of the country.
Coverstain Classic oil 100-mineral spirits clean-up
C/S oil based- Mineral spirits
C/S Water based- water clean-up
C/S High Hide alkyd-water clean-up
C/S high hide oil based-mineral spirits clean-up

I went to my local Menard's to investigate what was available in my area. Be advised that they had the High Hide alkyd mixed in on the shelf with High Hide Oil based and the guy in the department had no idea that they were two different products. Just make sure that if you are wanting an oil based, mineral spirits clean-up/thinned product that you look at the recommended clean-up directions on the back of the can. There is no identification on the front of the can besides the terms "alkyd" or "oil based".

Just wanted to warn all of you.This may or may not be a problem at your supplier but it is worth being informed about.
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My Big Box Coverstain shopping was odd as well. They stocked it in quarts, gallons and 5s but they only stocked one version in each size and they stocked different versions.

Meaning, quart was CS oil.
Gallon was CS oil high hide.
5, I forget which version.

Dry time is why it mattered to me. I wanted the regular oil specifically because it was inexpensive, would easily block the stains in one coat, and would dry quickly.

Well the "high hide" is in small print and has a 2 hour recoat time versus 1 hour for regular version.
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I picked up a gallon today and it was the 50g VOC. Up till now we were getting the 150g VOC. So I setup the sprayer and did a sample. This door was factory finish. Prep was sand, vac and cleaned with Gloss off. Got about 2 dozen fisheyes. Never had this problem with the other formula.
It is also thicker than before.

My rep is curious what color you used. She said they've seen some issues with the neutral base
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My rep is curious what color you used. She said they've seen some issues with the neutral base
It's always the neutral base, isn't it? ?
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It's always the neutral base, isn't it? ?

Yeah sounds like they had issues with the original BT neutral base too and PPG colorants. Had to use their in-store colorants or they'd get fish eyes.
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Yeah sounds like they had issues with the original BT neutral base too and PPG colorants. Had to use their in-store colorants or they'd get fish eyes.
Wow. That's strange. Neutral bases can be picky with all that colorant in them.
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Neutral base no problems
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