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There is a primer for every job. I need for y'all to help me out and narrow down what primers to carry. I am about to open up an account with Rust-Oleum direct and they carry Gardz, Zinsser and XIM among others. I would like for you guys to suggest what works best for you and not worry about pricing. For example what is your go to for Wood? Go to for basic drywall? Go to for Exterior? I current am thinking about Coverstain, and BIN shelac because they are well known and recognized and tried and true. I came accross Smart Prime or Zinsser 123 Plus (for box stores) and would like to know what you think. Also need to know about XIM since i dont have thay much info or experience with XIM.
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There is a primer for every job. I need for y'all to help me out and narrow down what primers to carry. I am about to open up an account with Rust-Oleum direct and they carry Gardz, Zinsser and XIM among others. I would like for you guys to suggest what works best for you and not worry about pricing. For example what is your go to for Wood? Go to for basic drywall? Go to for Exterior? I current am thinking about Coverstain, and BIN shelac because they are well known and recognized and tried and true. I came accross Smart Prime or Zinsser 123 Plus (for box stores) and would like to know what you think. Also need to know about XIM since i dont have thay much info or experience with XIM.
There is no such a thing. Every job is different.
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For example what is your go to for Wood?
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I'm a Ben Moore guy.
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zinny coverstain and zinny bin sealer. pretty much can do anything now. maybe not boats.
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There is no such a thing. Every job is different.
I understand this there is no one size fits all but what is your go to or what do you use on ext wood, drywall, stains, cabinets etc etc
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I'm a Ben Moore guy.
You and I both
I habe been wanting to carry the FS oil primer but looking at options that are disposable I can get rust oleum now so that means zinssee and I know somethimes Contractors bawk at the price of fresh start
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I'm a Ben Moore guy.
Tell me how do you like that elasto? Have you seen the product age? I am trying to get some feedback because it is a white base and only carries a small amount of tint. Also want to know how it will resist against fading being an elasto and all
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You are either not going to get very good margins with the Zinsser line or you aren't going to sell much of it. You are either going to have to keep your prices extremely low or not sell any because every box store on the planet sells it dirt cheap. To me it isn't worth stocking if I have to sell it below cost to sell it at a competitive price. Not a good investment if there are any Home Depots, Lowe's, Menard's Walmart, True Value, Do it Best, Ace, or any other large chain DIY stores in your area. I would look into XIM or Insul-x as a second primer line.
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You are either not going to get very good margins with the Zinsser line or you aren't going to sell much of it. You are either going to have to keep your prices extremely low or not sell any because every box store on the planet sells it dirt cheap. To me it isn't worth stocking if I have to sell it below cost to sell it at a competitive price. Not a good investment if there are any Home Depots, Lowe's, Menard's Walmart, True Value, Do it Best, Ace, or any other large chain DIY stores in your area. I would look into XIM or Insul-x as a second primer line.
Well going with Rust-Oleum Direct I do get good prices
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You are either not going to get very good margins with the Zinsser line or you aren't going to sell much of it. You are either going to have to keep your prices extremely low or not sell any because every box store on the planet sells it dirt cheap. To me it isn't worth stocking if I have to sell it below cost to sell it at a competitive price. Not a good investment if there are any Home Depots, Lowe's, Menard's Walmart, True Value, Do it Best, Ace, or any other large chain DIY stores in your area. I would look into XIM or Insul-x as a second primer line.
And XIM is part of rust oleum so I can also carry that as well. As for Inslx i have no idea what to carry with them since dont know all that much about them. I do carry some stix but 50+ a gallon is steep and some big boxes still have contracts with them so I also cant compete in price with inslx (i.e Cabinet Coat)
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I habe been wanting to carry the FS oil primer but looking at options that are disposable I can get rust oleum now so that means zinssee and I know somethimes Contractors bawk at the price of fresh start
I have tried SW A-100 Oil primer but same as with others they dry fast. This is a slow drying that penetrates really well.
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Tell me how do you like that elasto? Have you seen the product age? I am trying to get some feedback because it is a white base and only carries a small amount of tint. Also want to know how it will resist against fading being an elasto and all
Elastomeric works great. Only light colors.

When fading is an issue on a darker color I put 2 coats of Elastomeric and either a final coat of BM Mooorgard or Moorlife.
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Elastomeric works great. Only light colors.

When fading is an issue on a darker color I put 2 coats of Elastomeric and either a final coat of BM Mooorgard or Moorlife.
You are a dream painter lol
Most just leave it as is get the check and call it a day
But that many coats wouldnt that be super heavy the BM drying about 7 mils and regal about 2ish
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You are either not going to get very good margins with the Zinsser line or you aren't going to sell much of it. You are either going to have to keep your prices extremely low or not sell any because every box store on the planet sells it dirt cheap. To me it isn't worth stocking if I have to sell it below cost to sell it at a competitive price. Not a good investment if there are any Home Depots, Lowe's, Menard's Walmart, True Value, Do it Best, Ace, or any other large chain DIY stores in your area. I would look into XIM or Insul-x as a second primer line.
Would you be able to send me a pic of your primer wall. Mine is looking weak so definitely looking for reinforcements
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Gardz for sure, Zinsser 123, Coverstain, Bin
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Why do you stack all the gallons sideways??
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I have tried SW A-100 Oil primer but same as with others they dry fast. This is a slow drying that penetrates really well.
A-100 oil primer is the only good product with A-100 on the label as far as I'm concerned.
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