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Old 11-17-2012, 06:14 PM   #41
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:20 PM   #42
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i'm not a big fan of BM products but if i had to use a 'flat' sheen from their stable of products it would be the aura bath and spa matte. it's not a dead flat but close enough. ben flat i guarantee you has no washabliity whatsoever. we never EVER use dead flats for walls around here.
I agree Xmark-the Ben is not washable at all...like most flats (common knowledge). We try to avoid flats on walls here as well. However, on NC projects, our builders traditionally want "flat" on all walls, and don't want to spend the money on higher end products. However, our NC projects typically involve 10-15 different colors...so, if we have to give our customers a flat, I want it to at least look excellent, even if it is not "washable." For this particular reason, I am willing to spend 28.00 a gallon on Ben Flat. It also makes for some extremely forgiving touch-ups, which are practically undetectable from any angle. On NC, that is priceless.

How often do we use Flat? New Construction, and when a customer requests it, otherwise we operate like most other professional paint companies...we utilize the proper finishes when and where they are supposed to be used. Thanks for the input, and thanks again to everyone for the comments...always learning.
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I agree Xmark-the Ben is not washable at all...like most flats (common knowledge). We try to avoid flats on walls here as well. However, on NC projects, our builders traditionally want "flat" on all walls, and don't want to spend the money on higher end products. However, our NC projects typically involve 10-15 different colors...so, if we have to give our customers a flat, I want it to at least look excellent, even if it is not "washable." For this particular reason, I am willing to spend 28.00 a gallon on Ben Flat. It also makes for some extremely forgiving touch-ups, which are practically undetectable from any angle. On NC, that is priceless.

How often do we use Flat? New Construction, and when a customer requests it, otherwise we operate like most other professional paint companies...we utilize the proper finishes when and where they are supposed to be used. Thanks for the input, and thanks again to everyone for the comments...always learning.
Around here, a lot of the builders use flat so they can skimp on the finish level of the GWB, since it'll hide a multitude of sins. We've often had this come back to bite us on repaints. Clients will ask for something with more sheen for a number of reasons: looks, washability, reduced burnishing, etc. and then be unhappy with the repainted surfaces. We've had clients complain that they can see "roller tracks", when what they're seeing, for the first time, are all of the seams and fastener lines in the GWB.
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