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Old 08-25-2016, 09:37 AM   #1
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I know you have to take things on pissedconsumer.com with a bit of skepticism, but this poor person's "issue" falls right in line with the drywall adhesion test i did a couple of months ago!
http://behr.pissedconsumer.com/behr-...824906476.html
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Post pictures of your hillbilly lab PAC
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Ok but you asked for it!https://notanormalmommy.files.wordpr...2/img_5538.jpg
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I just got done brushing samples of ten different exterior "paint and primer" products on a piece of new extruded aluminum. Cleaned it with lacquer thinner and then denatured alcohol and taped off ten equal sample spots. Guess which two products from which manufacturer separated as soon as I brushed them on? Only two products did it now. 8 others didn't. Any guesses? Does this mean this test doesn't have anything to do with "real world" testing?
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Go paint 10 different houses with 10 different paints. Do follow-ups each year for the next 10 years. That's "real world" testing sir.
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Go paint 10 different houses with 10 different paints. Do follow-ups each year for the next 10 years. That's "real world" testing sir.
So what you are saying is that if I wait, and keep testing this product, it will eventually be better and NOT separate on aluminum? Is that a good business model? Did I mention that I have been doing random lab testing of this paint brand for over 25 years. Oh wait, just because it's the same benchmark testing done by every legit paint company in the country doesn't mean anything does it? I forgot. But hey if you can make money using it wth? It isn't really your problem if it separates is it?

Just a lab test and an observation, nothing more. Just can't wait thirty days to see which paints will fail the industry standard adhesion tests I have planned! I've already been doing this on drywall, wood,tile,ceiling tile, and Formica. So I wonder which two will fail the test on aluminum? Will that test follow the same pattern as all of the other tests I have done? the mind boggles at the possibilities!

But they never use drywall,wood,tile,ceiling tile, Etc, when they build houses do they?
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Do you have an old TV with rabbit ears,a ratty ol' tweed lounge chair with foam falling out of it and a stack of Playboy's next to it in your test lab? You know,so you have something to do while you wait for things to dry.
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Do you have an old TV with rabbit ears,a ratty ol' tweed lounge chair with foam falling out of it and a stack of Playboy's next to it in your test lab? You know,so you have something to do while you wait for things to dry.
Have you been STALKING me? How did you know? (they're Hustlers by the way. I don't do anything half way!)
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And before anyone gets a heart attack or something the A-1 hunna and superduperpaint brushed out fine.
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Have you been STALKING me? How did you know? (they're Hustlers by the way. I don't do anything half way!)
Yes,yes I've been stalking you. Paint nerds turn me on.
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I have a couple of spots on my test panel left. What should I get to try Exterior Durations, Emerald, Snapdry, What do you think?
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actually I make sure to buy it during the 40% off sale! I may be a hillbilly but I ain't an idjit!
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Go paint 10 different houses with 10 different paints. Do follow-ups each year for the next 10 years. That's "real world" testing sir.
And at the end it'll all be for nothing because they will have reformulated each of them 10 times. There's no way to do long term testing as much as the paints keep changing.

I'm in a pinch right now because all of a sudden I can't get Cabot's bleaching oil because it changed from oil to 100% acrylic and I'm in the middle of this job.
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Go with the Emerald, exterior duration has proven itself and who cares about SnapDry.
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Here's a suggestion from left field: Valspar Perennial. I'm doing an exterior for a local contractor and he supplied this. I'm painting Hardie siding, vinyl siding, and brick that has a couple layers of old paint.

It seems to me to be a good quality paint, and I know diddly about Valspar products. I would be curious how it adheres to aluminum. I think it would with no problem.
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And at the end it'll all be for nothing because they will have reformulated each of them 10 times. There's no way to do long term testing as much as the paints keep changing.

I'm in a pinch right now because all of a sudden I can't get Cabot's bleaching oil because it changed from oil to 100% acrylic and I'm in the middle of this job.
I feel your pain. We just went through this not long ago when we pre-sprayed 50 boxes of shakes in a basement. Someone decided the mix was to be mix the bleaching oil with another oil stain from cabots which had also been discontinued. We ended up using the 100% acrylic bleaching stain and mixed that with another cabots stain.

Cabots has gone way downhill. It used to be made a few miles from me when it was a great product. When the economy crashed they sold, moved, down sized and then the EPA changes, all of the products went to the crapper.
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can you try Diamond exterior 4 me. Id love it if you could. If it not in your area maybe i can find a way to ship you a small sample of it.
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Maybe all of the dulux exterior products. The only issue I've ever had was diamond semi-gloss growing moss/mold after one 'winter'
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Is dulux and Glidden the same stuff? I've always assumed it was but never 100% sure.
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