Retainning wall - Paint Talk

TERRY365PAINTER · 01-12-2012, 12:19 AM

Well bid this job today not this part of anyway .
I figure I get some feed back . Their is a deck on top of this . Major moisture problem this was just built like a year ago .
Wants to paint to match the stucco . I stated there is a moisture issue that, needs to be address first and that I would follow up with some research . So has anybody come across this situation .

Lambrecht · 01-12-2012, 12:32 AM

Are there any drain holes at the bottom of the wall?

NEPS.US · 01-12-2012, 01:18 AM

I wouldn't paint it with that moisture issue. H&C concrete stain may work but that could fail too.

TERRY365PAINTER · 01-12-2012, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambrecht

Are there any drain holes at the bottom of the wall?

I will take a closer look at it . My gut says leave it alone .

pacificpainters.com · 01-12-2012, 05:27 AM

Is the wall retaining back fill, have they used an aggregate drain and membrane before filling the wall?

An interesting solution depending on the design of the house could be to use a cement based paint on the wall, the ensuing efflorescence and patina would add to a Mediterranean look. Just add a couple of terracotta pots, some nicely groomed shrubs, a fountain and a garden bench and the look would be complete.

The older the wall gets the better it will look, possibly they could grow a vine over it as well.

You can make your own cement paint by using white cement, some cement pigments in terracotta and red oxide and some latex additive. You can then just give it a great look by brush stroking the finish out. Add a second coat that does not completely cover the fist coat and is slightly lighter in colour.

CApainter · 01-12-2012, 09:40 AM

Pic 2 looks like they did brush a concrete finish on the block wall.

They'll probably never fix the drainage problem, so give them what they want with a written understanding that it will peel in areas because of the poor installation of the wall.

-Alkaline resistant water borne primer
-Water borne flat acrylic latex finish
- and leave them several gallons of extra paint for the maintenance they'll need on it.

Try to wait untill it's warmer out

mudbone · 01-12-2012, 10:47 AM

All is blind in Texas so the saying goes. Go for it!

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NEPS.US "Member" Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New England Posts: 10,719 Rewards Points: 2,000 Thanks: 5,401 Thanked 5,705 Times in 3,060 Posts My Photos	I wouldn't paint it with that moisture issue. H&C concrete stain may work but that could fail too.

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CApainter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 14,221 Rewards Points: 1,582 Thanks: 11,180 Thanked 9,580 Times in 5,440 Posts My Photos	Pic 2 looks like they did brush a concrete finish on the block wall. They'll probably never fix the drainage problem, so give them what they want with a written understanding that it will peel in areas because of the poor installation of the wall. -Alkaline resistant water borne primer -Water borne flat acrylic latex finish - and leave them several gallons of extra paint for the maintenance they'll need on it. Try to wait untill it's warmer out

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mudbone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: mo. Posts: 4,125 Rewards Points: 2,754 Thanks: 1,335 Thanked 2,064 Times in 1,356 Posts My Photos	All is blind in Texas so the saying goes. Go for it!