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Old 10-16-2013, 04:17 PM   #1
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Good afternoon! What a great life they must have.....always bringing a smile to people's faces.

Anyway....my question. I have a crew of 16 painters and I supply most consumables. I have known for some time now that many consumables do not last as long as they should because the crew doesn't have to foot the bill. However, recently this fact was made blatantly obvious when, while transferring paint from a partial 5 gallon to another partial 5 gallon, 2 perfectly good covers rolled (and splashed all over the place of course) from one can to the other. My solution is to buy covers in bulk, keep them at the shop, and provide new covers to the crew as the old ones wear out. This, I hope, will stop the careless waste. How long, in general, should I expect a 1/2" and/or 3/4" cover to last? I have bought Purdy Colossus as that is what most use currently. I know there are many variables, but I'm looking for some reasonable average. We are about 80% residential and 20% commercial, split pretty evenly interior and exterior

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I'm sure it's a lot different depending on the size of your company. With 16 painters, it likely costs you more money to clean them and retain them for a couple uses compared to just tossing and starting over with new. I mean, you gotta pay someone for their time to clean them.

I keep a pretty tight rein on my 3 man crew and roller covers/brushes. At $4 or $5 a pop, it adds up if I don't get at least 2 or 3 jobs out of each roller cover. I can tell after cleaning them whether they have one more job in them. Even after 2 or 3 jobs, I wash them and keep them as "grub rollers", roller sleeves I can use to roll a porch or a patio where perfection is not required.

I might add, that I always like a roller sleeve that has been used at least once. All the fuzzies are gone, and it has passed the break in period. My two cents'.
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Might have said popcorn accidentally...but I definitely meant to say roller cover.
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PRC,

I think your solution is the best I've seen. Thanks for your suggestion!
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Thank you Gymschu. Good info.

I estimate we are using between 60 and 100 covers a month depending on business. There is certainly a cost to clean them, but this should be less than the cost of a new cover. I guess I will see how it washes out....ha! Didn't even mean to do that.
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Drop your 9" cover in a gallon zip loc. wrap your 18" in painters plastic. Why throw them out or wash them?
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For the same job...yes...that makes sense and pretty much what we do minus the ziplock bag. However, for the next job, it has to be cleaned unless you happen to be using the same paint as the first.
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New job- new cover.
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That may be the preference of some, but not the way I intend to go. It seems quite wasteful. IMHO, it would be no different to throw away a brush after every job. There is a cost component in my interest, but there is also an interest in being environmentally conscious.
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Oh I'm not wasteful by any means. Maybe my job duration and your job duration are different. I used to be a washer but then learned just to wrap em up. But I'm on jobs for months not days.
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Yes, that is a big difference. We are occasionally on multi-month projects, but our focus is residential and our duration is usually 1-2 weeks.
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Do you run 16 guys per job? How many covers do they average per job?
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NOOOO... 2-5 per crew...usually 2 or 3, but will have more on bigger jobs. I use at least one cover per person per job. Its gets expensive. Plus, they have been buying them one at a time. I am saving 40% just by buying bulk.
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Unless it is ceiling paint we always toss them, to us the cost for cleaning is more than a new pad.
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I'm a one man show but i know buing in bulk is a great idea. I really like the wooster american contractor rollers. I use both 9in and 18in buy in bulk the 9in covers are only $1.70 a piece at that price i just toss them. Probably not as good as the colossus rollers but they're pretty damn good. They hold and release paint really well and don't seem to shed much.
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Im a sole trader but if i had a crew i would get them to use these roller sleeve covers
Ive had a roller left in one for three months and it was still Wet

Maybe in early 2000 the trend in sydney was to paint the ceilings 1/2 or 1/4 strength of the wall colour but that has long gone nearly 100% ceilings are white

I have four in White

I have one in sealer one in ceiling flat then one in semigloss and lowsheen i never wash them out
Saving time on washing and stuffing around
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One thing I have definitely learned is I'm spending too much on rollers. My bulk coat is about $4.50 each for 9". At $1.57 I would agree with tossing them.
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If you are seriously using 60-120 a month I would just call Purdy and see if they will sell to you directly. If I was using that many I would order like 1000 at a time.
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