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Old 07-15-2017, 02:32 AM   #21
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Sure. Take it straight off a sheep and push it right up there.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:19 AM   #22
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Sure. Take it straight off a sheep and push it right up there.
Roflol....that's just baaaaaad.

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If you are using agrigate in your paint please use a drill and a paddle. It's not going to cover over as much defects as you think. The mudwork is primary. We do a tilt walls and spray Texcrete and other similar products and would not advise using a standard rig. First it's not going to come out of your gun and I have packed out a 1.5" hose, I couldn't imagine what it would do to a 3/8.

Anyways, even shooting aggregate texture coatings on tilt walls won't cover up crappy concrete point outs. If you know how to spray accoustic popcorn then that's an option, it covers bad work to some extent, sand aggregate really won't give you what your hoping for. Just my opinion from a lot of experience.
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Okay first and foremost what an a$$ ache, actually a shoulder ache. I took the advice of my paint store and rolled Texolite sand paint. Bad idea. It gummed up on the edges. Also they said I didn't need to prime my fixes. I did where there was water marks but I got lazy and didn't the them all. Bad Idea. The sand stuck to those areas more then where it was primed. Also I cut in first. Bad. Cut in after with sand paint. Again. The cut in drys or starts to dry and when you roll on top of that it grabs more sand and leaves the ceiling uneven. It was a disaster. The key words are it was. I have fixed by repainting the ceiling with sand mixed in ceiling paint. It is a big difference and I should have done that from the beginning, I think.

So my helpful hints would be to
-Cut in after you roll.
-Tape the walls. When you are cutting in for finish take tape off to get some paint on walls (in case you are painting the walls)
-Use ceiling paint mixed with sand or ceiling paint mixed with sand paint.
-For large areas have more then one person help to insure the edge is NOT dry. You need to keep the edge wet.
-I rolled it in 360 degrees and then moved on to next section.

But really the ceiling should be fixed correctly. Strongly suggest that to the homeowner or business owner. There is nothing professional in sand painted ceilings. It looks like crap and makes you look like crap. I have no idea what I will do next time I get asked. Textured ceilings is different.
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Okay first and foremost what an a$$ ache, actually a shoulder ache. I took the advice of my paint store and rolled Texolite sand paint. Bad idea. It gummed up on the edges. Also they said I didn't need to prime my fixes. I did where there was water marks but I got lazy and didn't the them all. Bad Idea. The sand stuck to those areas more then where it was primed. Also I cut in first. Bad. Cut in after with sand paint. Again. The cut in drys or starts to dry and when you roll on top of that it grabs more sand and leaves the ceiling uneven. It was a disaster. The key words are it was. I have fixed by repainting the ceiling with sand mixed in ceiling paint. It is a big difference and I should have done that from the beginning, I think.

So my helpful hints would be to
-Cut in after you roll.
-Tape the walls. When you are cutting in for finish take tape off to get some paint on walls (in case you are painting the walls)
-Use ceiling paint mixed with sand or ceiling paint mixed with sand paint.
-For large areas have more then one person help to insure the edge is NOT dry. You need to keep the edge wet.
-I rolled it in 360 degrees and then moved on to next section.

But really the ceiling should be fixed correctly. Strongly suggest that to the homeowner or business owner. There is nothing professional in sand painted ceilings. It looks like crap and makes you look like crap. I have no idea what I will do next time I get asked. Textured ceilings is different.
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Not wanting to be a dick here... but what you are saying is that after we told you not to do it you did it anyway and now you regret it?
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I told you so!
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You are right you all told me so. But do you NOT do it? The ceiling was just 1/3 the job. Do you not take the job? I had to sand paint it. I had to hide a bad taping job. If I had the advice that I posted afterward then the job MAY have not turned out so bad. Really the worse thing is I was told by one person to put the sand in the p[aint and my supplier said absolutely not and to use the redi mix texolite. But yes you did tell me but in the event that you have to do it I didn't get any helpful hints.
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You are right you all told me so. But do you NOT do it? The ceiling was just 1/3 the job. Do you not take the job? I had to sand paint it. I had to hide a bad taping job. If I had the advice that I posted afterward then the job MAY have not turned out so bad. Really the worse thing is I was told by one person to put the sand in the p[aint and my supplier said absolutely not and to use the redi mix texolite. But yes you did tell me but in the event that you have to do it I didn't get any helpful hints.
Of course I'm just messing with you. And clearly you had no choice in the matter. I don't think I could have made that ceiling look any better than you.
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Maybe I'm just confused here. Was it the HO or you that decided that putting a texture on the ceiling was necessary? If it was the HO then that's fine, but if it wasn't then you basically chose to do it the hard way. Mudding is not difficult. There are hundreds of videos on YouTube that show you how to do it. And it is a lot easier than rolling sand. It would take more time, but the end result would have been a nice smooth ceiling.
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You can always roll on the mud then stamp a design in it. Pretty easy and would probably look better than sand.
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Okay first and foremost what an a$$ ache, actually a shoulder ache. I took the advice of my paint store and rolled Texolite sand paint. Bad idea. It gummed up on the edges. Also they said I didn't need to prime my fixes. I did where there was water marks but I got lazy and didn't the them all. Bad Idea. The sand stuck to those areas more then where it was primed. Also I cut in first. Bad. Cut in after with sand paint. Again. The cut in drys or starts to dry and when you roll on top of that it grabs more sand and leaves the ceiling uneven. It was a disaster. The key words are it was. I have fixed by repainting the ceiling with sand mixed in ceiling paint. It is a big difference and I should have done that from the beginning, I think.

So my helpful hints would be to
-Cut in after you roll.
-Tape the walls. When you are cutting in for finish take tape off to get some paint on walls (in case you are painting the walls)
-Use ceiling paint mixed with sand or ceiling paint mixed with sand paint.
-For large areas have more then one person help to insure the edge is NOT dry. You need to keep the edge wet.
-I rolled it in 360 degrees and then moved on to next section.

But really the ceiling should be fixed correctly. Strongly suggest that to the homeowner or business owner. There is nothing professional in sand painted ceilings. It looks like crap and makes you look like crap. I have no idea what I will do next time I get asked. Textured ceilings is different.
I truly admire your humility in sharing your experience. That takes ba775.
And... told ya so.
I'm telling ya, the education in this trade is expensive and sometimes literally painful.
Yell the paint store guy to shove his idea up his.....dummy. you needed some paint that was a normal consistency cuz you were adding something to it that was gonna suck the moisture out. Coulda added water I guess bit eh...take yer lump and learning a bit more about mud and texture would be a great idea....save ya lots of headaches, builds your self confidence and skill set and makes for a better end product. If you're any good with a spackle knife, that's a good place to start. It's just bigger knifes and bigger spaces. Yes, there's much to learn but its not all that hard (except sanding...gawd I hate that part)

And,by the way, we offered all the help we could as none of us would do that to a lid for all the reasons you learned...
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I truly admire your humility in sharing your experience. That takes ba775.
And... told ya so.
I'm telling ya, the education in this trade is expensive and sometimes literally painful.
Yell the paint store guy to shove his idea up his.....dummy. you needed some paint that was a normal consistency cuz you were adding something to it that was gonna suck the moisture out. Coulda added water I guess bit eh...take yer lump and learning a bit more about mud and texture would be a great idea....save ya lots of headaches, builds your self confidence and skill set and makes for a better end product. If you're any good with a spackle knife, that's a good place to start. It's just bigger knifes and bigger spaces. Yes, there's much to learn but its not all that hard (except sanding...gawd I hate that part)

And,by the way, we offered all the help we could as none of us would do that to a lid for all the reasons you learned...
Good luck on your next project

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All he had to do was try rolling that stuff on a floor and he would have saved himself a lot of grief. His "sand paint" was essentially non-skid. Now on the other hand, had he tooled the material for a faux effect, like combing, or sweeping with a trowel or brush, the results may have been different. But as a means to cover up ceiling defects, there are much better and easier ways.

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All he had to do was try rolling that stuff on a floor and he would have saved himself a lot of grief. His "sand paint" was essentially non-skid. Now on the other hand, had he tooled the material for a faux effect, like combing, or sweeping with a trowel or brush, the results may have been different. But as a means to cover up ceiling defects, there are much better and easier ways.
Well, lesson learned I guess.....im still voting for the mop the mud on suggestion. If you're gonna have a crappy looking lid at the end of the job anyway, why not make it easy! Big bucket, mud, water, and a big, fat cover...just mop the bageezers out of it and take the check. Done.

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