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Old 12-16-2011, 02:48 AM   #21
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Got the same call too! Strange that they have a lot of our info. Coincidence? I never called back. Sounded weird.
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Yep, he called me also and sent me that long wordy email.Scam, of course ! (<:
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I got the same email....scam
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Where do you all think they are getting contact info????????????

Perhaps...........Painttalk??
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Where do you all think they are getting contact info????????????

Perhaps...........Painttalk??
No...I don't think so. It's much easier and more fruitful to use a "web - scraper / data extractor" and let it search for "painting contractors" on Google and extract the data from our websites. Or scrape it from business directories, or even just simply purchase a nationwide list from a list seller.

They need to hit thousands of numbers to find the few people that will fall for it.
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No...I don't think so. It's much easier and more fruitful to use a "web - scraper / data extractor" and let it search for "painting contractors" on Google and extract the data from our websites. Or scrape it from business directories, or even just simply purchase a nationwide list from a list seller.

They need to hit thousands of numbers to find the few people that will fall for it.
Well you know a lot more about that than I, since the only scrapers I know of are in my trailer!!
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I actually just completed the washing of 300 houses for them and have been offered a hundred repaints which I can sub out. Payment was quick and they paid top dollar.


























Yeah right. Sorry. Couldn't wait for April Fool's Day.
PS: They solicit us as well over in the alternate universe of washing.
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I actually just completed the washing of 300 houses for them and have been offered a hundred repaints which I can sub out. Payment was quick and they paid top dollar.

Yeah right. Sorry. Couldn't wait for April Fool's Day.
PS: They solicit us as well over in the alternate universe of washing.
Might I suggest an investment in real estate?
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Got a call from a man named George Car. (Doncar.info is their website--currently under construction)

He needs some painting done and wanted to know what areas we served.

He told me to email his brother Don Car with my qualifications, etc.

Don emails me back one week later after he received my info.

Here is his email---what do you guys think? :

Concerning your email below, which I am responding to, my brother George was referring to several houses that will need painting at the request per a partnership we both work with. Our primary job at the moment is to select the painter.

I am sorry I did not respond right away to your email. Unfortunately we had a small issue arise concerning a few of the units however, I think we have that resolved now but I did not want to respond until I had a firm idea of where it stood. Iíll cover more on this further down.

Before anything is final, it is going to be important for you to have a brief talk with one of the senior partners involved so you can both eliminate any questions on either side. That would also be the time and place to address any questions that may come up.

In the meantime, let me give you a head start and fill you in on where it stands at the moment so you can be prepared. After that, I should pass you up to the person you really need to make the final arrangements with. The following are the main points I think you should be aware of before you both speak:

There should be 12 to 19 single-family units over the year that will need something done. There also should be more each year over the next five years

Weíre considering the following proposed arrangement: Half the money down in advance before the job is started, 25% the day the job starts and the last 25% upon the day of completion. Let us know if that works.

Do not be concerned with the job prices on your end needing to be too low or the cheapest. Quality is preferred over discounts or lowest prices.

FYI - A partnership we work with covers housing expenses for workers on their project so it controls and manages the units however the individual worker/tenant covers some maintenance per their agreement which includes painting. The minor issue I mentioned above pertained to between a third to half of the tenants who raised concern that they may not have all the cash needed when called upon to have the structure painted and would need time and assistance in order not to default in their agreement even though they are reimbursed for the expense later.

Solution - One of the senior partners found a program for those that need it that will cover 70% of the cost and it appears that it would direct pay to the painter in advance of starting the job, which is a plus. The program would give the painter cash up front and the tenant 6 months before they have to return the amount the program puts up in advance to the painter, which seems to solve the issue.

For the above reason, this divides the houses into two groups from our position:
1. Those where the worker/tenant will cover the entire cost out of pocket up front.
2. Those who will need the assistance arrangement, which again could be a third to half of those involved. From your standpoint, youíre paid on all of them the same.

Conclusion: If we want the rights to service the group using assistance as well as the others, the company would need to be registered with the assistance program and so would the painter. The only costs to do this might be about the same as a couple of buckets of paint in order to get them all in both groups.

If we donít want to consider the second group or in essence you do not want to consider them because of the suggested program involved, then on our side we must determine what we are going to do about them with perhaps another direction. The senior partners would like to have one painter for all but if you have a problem with it, we may have to go to a two-painter concept.

Overall, there appears to be work available over the next 5 years as I mentioned earlier however, the jobs would certainly be spaced out over the time so as not to disrupt your current workload.

If you wish to pursue this further, please contact my assistant Karen right away. I will be leaving on vacation for a few weeks. Let Karen know your feelings about both groups as outlined above and any restrictions on your side. She will direct you to the final person in charge that you need to talk to in order to finalize everything and answer any questions. Her email address is [email protected]

At this time, donít write me back on this because I will be gone for the few weeks and Karen will be handling everything while I am gone.

Thank you for offering your painting services.

Don
I responded to this, just to see what the scam is. Seems like at some point you are required to pay for the "license" required to paint tenant occupied homes. When I said I did not think I needed to pay for that, all contact stopped. Crazies come and crazies go. I hope no one got burned on this. It was obviously a scam. When was the last time someone called you and said they had a couple dozen houses to paint, but did not know where you were located?
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