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Old 01-15-2015, 11:08 AM   #1
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My paint system is to usually paint trim first. I lightly sand of course. Let dry overnight. Come back next day and mask with sensitive take, caulk then paint walls etc. On this job its ripping paint. Advice?
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My paint system is to usually paint trim first. I lightly sand of course. Let dry overnight. Come back next day and mask with sensitive take, caulk then paint walls etc. On this job its ripping paint. Advice?
Did you prime the trim? Maybe the previous paint was oil base and you put latex on top with out priming.
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don't use tape when cutting walls to trim. And why are you caulking the trim after you finish coat it?

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Paints not cured because it cold outside
Caulk is too thick
Surface was dirty, dusty, oily
Paints sticking to primer, but primer isn't sticking to base
Wasn't sanded good enough

Those are probably the biggest reasons
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SOOO many folks are experiencing finish being damaged when removing "sensitive" tape.

Waterborne paints take much longer to cure than overnight.

Factors you need to consider - type of tape (brand), cure time of paint, length of time tape left on newly painted surfaces, need to use tape vs hand cutting.



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Try Superpaint for trim. Then let it dry/cure another day or so. This time of year I never use any additves and try to do thin coats. Its cold out there and rush jobs are going to be difficult. Right now I have 3 jobs on hold till it gets warmer. It sucks but just not worth the risk.
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Using oil. Makes sense. Probably the cold. Usually never have issues. Maybe 1 or 2 touch ups.
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don't use tape when cutting walls to trim. And why are you caulking the trim after you finish coat it?
You always cut in walls in high end homes?. I'm concerned with straight lines. I mean I can cut a straight line but....
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You always cut in walls in high end homes?. I'm concerned with straight lines. I mean I can cut a straight line but....
Did you know there was a time when a brush was the ONLY tool to cut in with? We seemed to manage quite precisely.



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Suppose so. I will try it.
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Did you know there was a time when a brush was the ONLY tool to cut in with? We seemed to manage quite precisely.
Love to see the overspray those 80 year old rollers threw all over the trim :what:
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Use good roller covers and slow down your roll close to floor trim. To get used to not using tape, roll the walls first, then cut in. You may still have a few touch ups, but will be much more efficient without tape and enjoy being a better painter as well. Prep work is tedious enough, tape can be tedious, especially when it creates problems. Just my 2cents,i know its common info.
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Use good roller covers and slow down your roll close to floor trim. To get used to not using tape, roll the walls first, then cut in. You may still have a few touch ups, but will be much more efficient without tape and enjoy being a better painter as well. Prep work is tedious enough, tape can be tedious, especially when it creates problems. Just my 2cents,i know its common info.
Yup, there was a time when painting was a skilled craft. Most of old guys can even roll Gardz w/o splattering.



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You always cut in walls in high end homes?. I'm concerned with straight lines. I mean I can cut a straight line but....
Yes I always cut in without tape weather its high end or a rats nest. i get a much crisper line without having to worry about pulling tape. The only time I use tape is to cover base if im not painting it
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I also use tape to deshed roller covers
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I also use tape to deshed roller covers
we always found that's what a primer is for

(NEVER used a new sleeve for finish paint)



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we always found that's what a primer is for

(NEVER used a new sleeve for finish paint)
me either...deshed roll out first coat...lightly sand if time allows...use same sleeve to finish
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And to carry this little sidetrack a little further - on a RARE occasion that we HAD to roll a first finish coat with a new cover, we would drench with cleaner, scrape, and spin. It would help, but not quite 100%.

Funny thing is, we found the least shedding roller NOT to be the most expensive ones. A local mom & pop had a "discount brand" named Armorflex - haven't seen them anywhere else or since. They were, IMO, better in all aspects than anything Wooster or Purdy offered.



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I don't know if you guys have heard about this new invention they got out now.

It's called an airless

It doesn't shed a thing,puts paint on anything you want in a fraction of the time it takes to do by hand

And it takes a good painter to use tape paper etc. to achieve straight lines without the tedious cutting in

I mean I can cut a straight line too,but not as straight as I can when I use tape

Some paint pull is expected when I tape off freshly painted trim,who has time to let it cure out for two weeks before painting everything else

Still faster then doing everything by hand,and how is that a better painter anyway?

Do you get more paint on substraight by hand?No

I can pile on way more paint with that airless then I can using a brush,or roller,and way faster

And I can clean that airless in about half the time then I would a couple 3 rollers and several brushes

Brushes,rollers,etc.. are for touch up in my world,this amazing nrew machine they got is the way to go JMHO
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My paint system is to usually paint trim first. I lightly sand of course. Let dry overnight. Come back next day and mask with sensitive take, caulk then paint walls etc. On this job its ripping paint. Advice?
Wait...are you putting the tape on the trim or wall?
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